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Costco will now only sell Playstation and Switch, Xbox is gone. Bad sign for their popularity.
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Xbox really is just Gamepass now. Must be making them good money I guess if they’re getting out of hardware almost completely? Then again they just killed off almost all of their upcoming games except for like, Fable.
All that to say it’s Sega’s opening to get back into the hardware market. Dreamcast 2 baybeeeee
Now that Sega’s making great games again,
Microsoft has been transitioning Xbox into a “gaming” brand that includes all their offerings pc, console and other. It’s all “xbox” not just the console. They do not intend to stay in the console market and have been intentionally expanding the brand’s meaning for a long long time now. What they’ve wanted to do for a while is to drop hardware entirely and migrate to a fully subscription based streamed gaming approach where you own no hardware at all. This remains their intended goal and they hope to deliver it through expansion of the mobile gaming market.
The console wars ended with the signing of the Treaty of Costco
This is completely anecdotal, of course, but I recently noticed a couple of Finnish big box retailers not carrying Xbox controllers on their shelves at all. Didn’t check if they sold consoles since I was just looking at controllers but I was surprised to see it was just PlayStation, Nintendo and cheap 3rd party PS4 controllers. Very healthy brand
Weird decision since it’s the de facto standard for PC gaming.
The standard for pc gaming is m+kb. If you must have a controller, an 8bitdo is better and cheaper than a first party xbox one.
You know I meant the standard for controllers. 8bitdo controllers are cheaper and better, but also far less likely to be stocked by regular big box retailers.In my experience, physical retailers are most likely to either have nothing for PC gaming or just
Yeah, I can think of like one or two PC games out of my whole collection that it makes sense to use a controller with, and they’re both fine with mouse and keyboard, enough that I don’t feel the need to get a controller just for that. Now, if I were to end up with one someone was getting rid of, or pick one up dirt cheap gently used, I’d use it, but I don’t feel the need to go looking for one.
When it comes to the overall experience, I massively prefer PC gaming, it’s just a much better experience for 95% of what I like to play, but as far as the sensory experience, I do really like certain console controllers for their shape in my hands and the button presses. And if you’re going to play a shooter game, or really anything with decent combat and good ranged options, something more like an actual trigger than a mouse button to fire does feel really good. (And force sensitive buttons and sticks from older systems are just the best. Mashing the crap out of a button that feels crazy good to press is just peak sensory experience.)
i mostly play games that use controllers and have my pc hooked up to my tv.
Ah, yeah, that’s a neat way to do it if that’s the type of thing you like. I tend to enjoy things that are more “menus and spreadsheets, the game”, and so a controller makes for a simply horrible experience. Like, they’re unwieldy enough with the precise pointing you get with a mouse, and keyboard shortcuts, controllers and complex menuing don’t mix.
Though I grew up in the Halo era I never had a console so I never picked up the thumbstick aiming skill, and I also favor menu and spreadsheet type games. So the only thing I use a controller for is half assed console ports they didn’t bother to make a sensible m+kb setup for like FF7R.
What other kind of decision would it be?
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decision.
Microsoft has given up on Xbox anyways.
dont worry. Silksong will be avaliable Day 1 on the Xbox Rog Ally
Thanks goodness I have my 1200 dollars here ready and waiting to buy a slightly worse version of the steam deck (software wise, it’s probably more powerful hardware, but that doesn’t matter when the software is completely shitty Microsoft crap).
Xbox always been trash.
I will forever hate how they made X Y A B the controller standard for PC games, when we all know the SNES button format is the one true format. Or at least be minutely clever like Sony and make some symbols.
They didn’t invent that layout, they just copied it from the Dreamcast controller. If you want to go even further, the Dreamcast layout is basically the Saturn layout with the last two face buttons removed.
The MegaDrive six button, which I guess you need for Street Fighter, also had that layout even before the Saturn.
On a 3 button controller in Street Fighter, pressing start would switch your controls between punches and kicks.
I think it’s better to have shoulder buttons in a fighter so you aren’t stuck with your right thumb doing everything. It’s not the default, but I usually use both bumpers and triggers for those inputs so the thumb it only responsible for two buttons.
I honestly forgot that the six button Mega Drive controller existed, but you’re right.
for. real. this still fucks me up with xbux controllers. if they would have used completely different letters or symbols, it would be fine. fucking microsoft.
At least Microsoft stuck to one layout. If you had a 2D Mario style game for each Nintendo console, the run and jump buttons would be:
- NES: B A
- SNES: Y B
- N64: B A
- GC: Y A
is costco in deep with Israel? interesting this comes on the heels if microsoft apparently suspending some services for israel?
i just wonder if it’s tit for tat
i think its more likely nobody is buying Xbox. It sells less than Switch 1.
No I think it’s just xbox sales being down
microsoft apparently suspending some services for israel?
Microshit being kind of based? is something I never thought I’d say.
It’s because their employees keep protesting and doing sit-ins in executive offices and accosting executives and there’s so many employees that for every one they fire for it there’s two more in line.
It’s definitely a win for those campaigners/unions/worker groups, and a blow to Israel, but it’s also worth mentioning that it’s a bit of a fudge from Microsoft so let’s not give them too much credit.
They’re pulling data hosting from Unit8200, which is the secretive military data unit that was storing and surveilling every phone call in Gaza. But it’s also a massive tech incubator so a lot of Israeli spy/digital genocide tech is privatised through Unit8200 linked companies, which Microsoft will undoubtedly still support.
critical support for tech employees
Wondered that too
if microsoft kills the xbox i hope they at least keep making the controllers
xbox series x model s deluxe
Come to think of it, I genuinely can’t remember the last time someone brought up Xbox in the present tense.
Wow smh my head, why would woke do this
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They really shot themselves in the foot with forcing Kinect with the Xbox one and the initial (later walked back) decision to be always online required. The Kinect made the Xbox $100 more at launch vs PlayStation which was a big impact.
The issue with losing that round of the “console wars” was this was when a lot of people started buying games digitally, this meant people aren’t as willing to switch consoles later since you can’t sell your digital collection. So that loss snowballs since it took a while for cross play to become a thing.
If they had made really good console exclusives after that they made have had a chance to comeback but so many were mid (gears of war) or bombed (halo). It’s just been a slow spiral from there.
I moved to PC after the Xbox one and am really happy I did.
That’s a good point about the digital collection thing. I always knew the Xbox One pre-release debacle was the fatal mistake for Xbox, but that helped further solidify it for me.
It’s a shame since I like the Xboxs and their exclusives, and like you think the seeds were there for a potential comeback if done right, especially with all those major acquisitions a few years back. But with Gears now on Playstation, all I need to see is Halo do the same to know that they well and truly are on the way out of the hardware biz ala Sega.
Yeah I liked their games on the 360 so it sucked when they fumbled so bad. It looked like they were on the right track when they were investing in studios but I can’t really think of a decent exclusive that came out of that. Although that was around the time I stopped gaming for a while so may have missed something.
It’s interesting what will happen if Xbox leaves hardware. PlayStation probably gets more free reign to raise prices since Nintendo is a pretty different niche of the market and is pretty anti consumer too and a chunk of the market just won’t ever move to PC due to personal preferences.
Microsoft really can’t compete with valve and the PC handheld market either. Idk what that means for Sony tho.
Seems obvious to me that console gaming is a sinking ship and leaving it is the right move by Microsoft. Nobody wants to pay gaming PC prices for a shitty PC. The only exception to this is devices like the Steam Deck that you can actually use like a PC and do whatever you want, but no major console manufacturer will ever allow that.
I think they might just be moving to being a service and offloading the hardware to some kind of ‘second-party’ arrangement where MS won’t manufacture an ‘xbox’ again, but ASUS or Razer or something will make various tiers of standardised ‘xbox’ devices and handhelds
I reckon they’ll keep the studios and even still have some timed and some full exclusives, which will keep game pass chugging. But maybe the days of the actual xbox console are over?
surely the have to keep making the controller though, it’s the highest quality one with direct PC support (and therefore support for any new device strategy). if they kill off the controller, it’s joever
I bought an 8bitdo controller since it had hall-effect sticks and USB-C cabling, and was like $20; the shape isn’t quite as nice as the Xbox controller but it seems well made. There’s some weirdness in my super-corner-case scenario though. (GoG release Breath of Fire IV through Proton doesn’t map the controls correctly)
It’s surprising that premium controllers have sort of stagnated. Outside of fightsticks, most third party controllers still carry the baggage of MadCatz and $10 throwaways that say “P4” or “Xobx” on the box.
Keyboards and mice have gone from $10 packins to near-Veblen goods with $100+ choices, surely some manufacturers want that for controllers too.
8bitdo’s Ultimate controller line is probably the best I’ve ever used, and it slays me that those have Hall effect sticks when the ones sold by the multibillion dollar console manufacturers at twice the price don’t
Yep, compatibility layers can be real pains. Count yourself lucky all that’s broken is controller mapping.
