Tariffs are paid by the company that imports foreign-made goods to the government. To make up for that expense, they charge the retailer the same amount; and to make up for that expense, the retailer charges the customer the same (or a higher) amount added to the item’s price. (at least as I understand it)
If OOP is “100% Trump!”, they should be very, extremely happy about paying into THEIR President’s pockets.
I would be short and concise, and just for this person add a sprinkle of personal responsibility:
Trump taxed you because you bought something un-American.
The extension:-
This costs more because you have to pay off Trump as it contains something un-American.
See, the trick is that calling it a tariff hides the fact it’s an IMPORT TAX, paid by the people within the IMPORTING COUNTRY
It doesn’t hide it from most people, just those too dumb to go and find out what a tariff is before voting for them.
just those too dumb to go and find out what a tariff is before voting for them
Of which there are more than 70 million in this country.
That’s the thing though. A lot of people do not bother researching and finding information themselves. That’s what makes rhetoric so powerful.
And it works. Just keep repeating the lie that people want to believe and they will believe it. The bigger the better. That’s what makes Trump so persuasive to morons. They want to believe these unbelievably ridiculous lies.
“A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the truth primarily used as a political propaganda technique.[1][2] The German expression was first used by Adolf Hitler in his book Mein Kampf (1925) to describe how people could be induced to believe so colossal a lie because they would not believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously”. Hitler claimed that the technique had been used by Jews to blame Germany’s loss in World War I on German general Erich Ludendorff, who was a prominent nationalist political leader in the Weimar Republic.”
Since it’s a tax, the party paying the tax has no impact on its tax incidence. It’s just the result of supply and demand elasticity.
What’s annoying and nobody seems to grasp is that even if the tax was on the foreign producer instead of the domestic consumer, the end result would be the same thing. They wouldn’t just eat the cost lol.
This becomes so obvious when the tariff is over 100%. The supplier is obviously not paying 125% of the sale price in taxes.
2d means lots of times for replies, I want to see what he said when it was explained to him.
Apparently he has deleted the post.
Or it wasn’t real.
I struggle to believe someone could be this disconnected from reality. Honestly.
One third of Americans, about 100 million people, are in fact this stupid.
This is (one of) the real horror(s) of fascism:
It forms a cult of personality.
As in, a literal cult, a ‘Dear Leader can do no wrong’, honest to god, utterly delusional cult.
Just go check all the polls of people who still specifically support Trump’s tariff policy.
Combine that with the fact that 20% of the US is functionally illiterate (reading/writing skills of a 2nd grader or worse), and the average literacy level is between a 5th and 6th grader, meaning that next 30% of people are… just barely out of elementary school when it comes to literacy.
Those numbers are for US adults 18 or older btw.
As other commenters have mentioned, I too have multiple family members I have had to go no contact with in the last few years because they are in the MAGA cult, are incredibly aggressive, delusional, manipulativr, etc.
In my case specifically, my Dad fell all the way down the QAnon rabbit hole, and the last time I was with him in person, he was showing me how he manufactures ghost guns (no serial numbers) in his garage with some vintage machining tools.
In a sane world he would be on a red flag list as a potential domestic terrorist.
In the actual world he is just a retiree with a hobby.
Can vouch they exist… My dad is similar. Though, he’d come up with an explanation that the business is doing it to make Trump look bad so it must be the evil DEI left wing CEO (he won’t verify any of it, that will just become his narrative), or something along those lines.
Apparently it’s difficult to grasp that price increases when thing get more expensive.
But why? Is it because of Biden? Please don’t explain it to me.
Why would Hillary’s emails do this?
It’s because of Hunter Biden’s laptop
The catch is that the ones who don’t understand always, ALWAYS think it’s the other country that pays the tariff. Every time.
Even if that’s true the price would still increase. The exporting country would just charge extra to make up the difference. It’s not like they would just absorb the extra cost by pure goodwill for the oh so poor American people.
The dumb thing is that it doesn’t matter who pays the tariff, it still will get passed to the consumer. Consider a scenario where the government starts taxing Amazon $100 per order no matter what’s in it. If you buy a $10 item on Amazon, how are they going to pay the $100 tax on that? Amazon will just add a $100 tax fee to your order because they can’t keep running a business if that cost isn’t baked into the final price. It doesn’t matter who actually delivers money to the government, the tax gets paid by all parties involved.
FYI, sales tax is already done this way. Sales tax is collected from businesses, not customers, but customers still pay sales tax because that’s just how economics works.
Right, you and I get that, my point is that the people who are confused why their tariff-impacted goods cost more don’t get that. They think the other country pays it, full stop.
PLEASE be Nice to Him! He THOUGHT Electing Trump would mean he could PUNCH TRANS KIDS in Public and Run Over Immigrant Children! He DIDNT think it would Hurt HIS Wallet! He’s WHITE For Pete’s Sake! Show some SYMPATHY!
You all are snowflakes but please explain this to me without triggering me
This is MY safe space and you can’t come in!
In other words, Brandon has no fucking idea what “tariff” means, except it must be good cuz Daddy says so.
I wish the US media would call tariffs “import taxes”, as that terminology seems to be generally better understood by the public.
Yesterday I type “what” into my search engine and within the top 5 was “what is a tariff”. Import tax would make too much sense and people wouldn’t stand behind it if it was referred to as such.
I get that tariff is the correct word and I understand what they are, but I am sure people like my dipshit cousins had no clue until a few days ago.
Then they’d blame the liberals for adding a new tax when all Trump wants is tariffs.
To be fair, Trump doesn’t even know how tariffs work properly.
Someone on reddit (from where I stole this pic) said ‘Trump thinks tariffs are like tributes’ and I think that’s a perfect analysis of Trump’s mentality.
Trump doesn’t know how fucking anything works.
They STILL don’t get it? Everyone has been yelling about exactly what would happen. The news, social media, people protesting in the streets… even Fox News is critical of the Tariffs now. Journalists are bringing it up at White House press conferences and getting reaponses from the Press Secretary. This is not a secret. What sort of social bubble/echo chamber, do these people live in? Just fully bought in to the kool-aid. Useful idiots, the lot of them!
To be fair, everyone has been yelling about a lot of things. I even notice a lot of stupid things said against Trump, which is frustrating, because imagine you’re hearing all those stupid things said and you’re not already committed to an anti-Trump ideology - then how will you believe when you hear the real anti-Trump things said?
People are incredibly stupid.
People are incredibly stupid and technology / politics isolates that stupidity and builds upon it to make mindless propaganda drones.
I think this is the right answer. I really don’t want to believe this is true, but I think it is.
Social bubbles/echo chambers is exactly what has created this. Why did Musk buy X and Trump created his own social media?
Because Musk accidentally made an offer for Twitter and because Trump needed to take foreign bribes?
Now, why was Musk able to get the Saudis and others to help him bankroll that purchase?
The Saudi’s liked the idea of being able to censor and/or dox people who are anti-Saudi. I think they got their money’s worth tbh…
These kind of people get all their news from FreedomEagle on facebook or some angry guy with a red face and oakleys on youtube because mainstream news is woke dei
They have been conditioned to believe that the mainstream media is evil and constantly lies to them in order to facilitate the woke communist takeover and destruction of the USA.
So it would be an understatement to say they are working from a position of willful ignorance.
A tariff is a tax on foreign goods, paid by the consumer.
IT. IS. A TAX
Sorry, Copium is produced mostly in china, im gonna have to hit you with a tarriff surcharge
Because it’s very hard to search online for “how tariffs work”. This is why Trump got elected, because idiots like this who have no capacity to fact check things voted for him, no questions asked.
To make answer short, YOU pay the tariffs dummy. You do!
DID YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH?
I DID MY RESEARCH.
GO DO YOUR RESEARCH.
OH MY RESEARCH IS BETTER THAN YOUR RESEARCH THAT’S WHY.
Why is it always my president or not my president with these people? It’s not a sporting event, there are teams but not the ones they’re thinking of
Politics is football teams for them. It doesn’t matter what is being done, it’s about who is doing it.
They believed that Obama would try to become a dictator because they assume that others think the same way they do. The goal is for your team to dominate and win, and you assume that the other team is playing the same way. Big part of why “every accusation is a projection.”
If an entire cult is too fucking stupid to recognize what’s hurting them, then how the fuck could tariffs be MAGA’s death knell like some people are saying? You could literally douse some of these people in gasoline and tell them, ‘I need you to burn for just a couple seconds for Trump,’ and they’d fucking do it.
I saw some asshole in an interview saying, “Sometimes you gotta walk through the fire first.”
Like…Yeah? Maybe. Just don’t start by lighting yourself the fuck on fire. 😕🔫
