They were saying he was an illegal all over MAGAtard social media. Until the facts came out. Then they started deleting in mass to cover up their lies.
I was recently thinking it’s says a lot about a culture, where kids shoot up schools regularly, but immigrants getting a terrible treatment never seem to shoot up an ICE office or other government building.
“Homegrown criminal” off to El Salvador with you! Right Donny? Right?!
Hmmm. Maybe if there were less guns around…
“He’s just a bad apple”
“Lone wolf”
“Let’s talk about mental health”
“Okay, what can we do for mental health?”
“Nothing or genocide/restablish the patriarchy, fuck you lib”
“We need Jesus in schools!”
No joke, I’ve heard people say that exact thing in response. That taking God out of schools is what started all this, so if there was more prayer in school, we wouldn’t have shootings.
Yeah, because nobody does mass shootings in religious places.
The poor kid was clearly driven insane by the wokeness surrounding them. Better ban pronouns.
Curious that this is still happening even though Musk has killed the woke mind virus and these guys have won forever.
Imagine that! Who’d’ve thought?
And his mom is a police officer.
And he used one of her unsecured guns.
In a system where we want to discourage this we need to hold the parents accountable.
I think a life sentence for each life her son took is fair, for her and her son.
Maybe just less guns?
No. We’ve been having too many random fires lately. The obvious answer is MORE FLAMETHROWERS! Yeah! That’ll fix all the fires!
Why not life sentences for grand parents too? Uncles and aunts? Doctors, teachers…
If a gun owner’s gun is used in a murder, the owner should be charged with second-degree murder, full stop. When you own a gun, it is your responsibility to keep and secure it properly. I don’t care if it’s stolen or whatever, that gun is ultimately the responsibility of the owner. That’s the social contract when acquiring a device whose sole purpose is to kill.
irresponsible gun owning parents, who literally put firearms into the hands of their homicidal children, need to be held accountable for these tragedies.
dozens of mass shootings in recent years, especially school shootings, were absolutely preventable. if only these fucking lazy stupid ass adults would stop fetishizing guns for 2 seconds, long enough to store their weapons securely like a sane responsible person. or they could, idk, maybe steer their mentally disturbed crotch goblin towards a more pro-social, harmless activity?
firearm ownership is a responsibility too few take seriously.
The NRA has entered the chat.
Prosecute the parents. They know they raised a shit kid. This is not an accident but a consequence.
He is 20yo. He s not a child. You don’t emprison people because their adult kid did some shit
You are saying nonsense
Some are faster, some are slower at growing up and fixing grown up at is 18 is a legal compromise. He might well have been still a kid.
His mom is a cop
And he killed with her gun. Twice as bad. Send her to prison for unvoluntary manslaughter.
Involuntary Manslaughter, but agreed. The bigots that raise these bigoted monsters must be held accountable. They should also be prosecuted for being domestic threats to the constitution. I’m being entirely serious.
This bigoted shooting is the end result of the entire lack of intolerance being stamped out the way it has to be.
It’s an interesting idea I don’t necessarily disagree with, but while we’re adding more people to our prison system, what other offenses are eligible?
This is a weird way for me to find out about another shooting
It wasn’t as bad as some (2 dead, 6 injured).
He originally started with a shotgun but it jammed without firing a shot. He grabbed a pistol from his vehicle and fired into the bystanders.
Police were on scene quickly (FSU is always crawling with plain clothes officers and unmarked cars) and shot and wounded the shooter.
If that happened in my country it would be huge news and all anyone in the country would talk about for weeks.
This is America. Don’t catch you slippin’.
Oh, what a fucked up world we live in that we see a school shooting as “not so bad, all things considered”…
It’s only “not so bad” in America.
‘No Way to Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
There is a really fucked up silver lining to this which is every nation not the USA can point to the USA whenever someone wants to loosen gun regulations. In a twisted way the US might be helping other nations by being such a “good” (bad) example.
Rest of the world also has a right-wing problem. It’s seeping into our culture and everyday life because they have found out how to sell fascism to the everyday, uneducated moron. Sadly, that’s half the world.
Absolutely! I’m not in Germany but I hope they can use the US as an example of what not to do and absolutely destroy the AfD before it reaches critical mass.
Politicians around the word: we need to ban guns and assault rifles.
US policy makers: we need to tell the good guys they need to
buycarry a gun.Also US policy makers: We refuse to do anything about the low wages, crushing debt, inaccessible health care (physical and mental), and other problems I can’t even think of right now.
Plenty of countries have lots of guns. Virtually none of them have any significant number of mass terror shootings, even the ones with otherwise high rates of gun violence.
America is built different.
That pistol he grabbed from the vehicle…
…was his Mom’s old service pistol.
His Mom was a school resource officer and later deputized into the Leon County Sheriffs.
https://www.newsweek.com/fsu-shooter-leon-county-deputy-phoenix-jessica-ikner-2061301
In a news conference hours after the first reports of the active shooting were announced, Leon County Sheriff Walt McNeil identified the suspect.
“The shooter is 20-year-old Phoenix Ikner … and he is the son of a Leon County sheriff’s deputy,” McNeil said.
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According to Revell during the news conference, Jessica Ikner [the shooter’s mother] is a school resource officer in Leon County. The county sheriff’s office website lists her as a “middle schools deputy.”
Deputy Ikner was awarded law enforcement employee of the month in March 2024, the sheriff’s office posted on Facebook.
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[The Shooter] was “a long-standing member” of the Leon County Sheriff’s Office Youth Advisory Council, McNeil said during the news conference.
“He has been steep in the Leon County Sheriff’s Office Family,” McNeil said, adding that it is “not a surprise” that Ikner had access to weapons.
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(apologies for possibly paywalled link, try internet archive if its blocked for you)
Phoenix Ikner, a 20-year-old son of a sheriff’s deputy whom police accuse of using his mother’s gun, is in police custody after being identified as a suspect in a shooting on Florida State University’s campus Thursday, which killed two people and injured at least six others.
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Jessica Ikner, a beloved Raa Middle School student resource deputy, was the 2023 law enforcement officer of the year with the Leon County Sheriff’s Office.
She also practiced shooting with her stepson, Phoenix, at a firing range, but “not in an official capacity,” according to LCSO.
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Yeah so this guy was trained to shoot by his armed-with-a-firearm, middle school guard / county deputy mom, and he then took his mom’s service pistol to shoot up his own school/uni.
I can’t find more details on the shotgun, but it could also be the case that that is or was a service weapon as well… but that is barely informed speculation on my part, I just know that a lot of US cops also have a shotgun in their cruiser.
The headline is using ‘was’ as a weasel word.
They know it’ll be click bait because it will be read as:
“The weapon used is a weapon that is the service weapon of a deputy”, and not:
“At one point, in the past, the weapon used was a service weapon but isn’t any longer”.
Him using a service weapon implies that there was a lapse of security on his mother’s part. That’s why it’s being mentioned in the way that it is because, if it were true, it would be outrageous.
The fact that an adult Florida man was able to access privately owned firearms isn’t news. But making it seem scandalous by implying that he killed people with a weapon issued as the service weapon of an active duty cop gets clicks.
The shotgun story is based on first hand accounts that I’ve heard from the FSU students that I work with. I’m obviously just a random Internet person, so don’t believe it until you see other sources.
Thoughts and prayers
Local law enforcement was having a training session very close by. That and the fact the shooter was the son of a Sherrif deputy are the reasons you could hear them blowing themselves over their fast response the whole time. Not that the fucker was putting up all the red flags for fucking years while being heavily involved in local law enforcement and constantly around guns.
Not that the fucker was putting up all the red flags for fucking years while being heavily involved in local law enforcement and constantly around guns.
There is a reason DeSantis & the fascists in the Florida legislature are about to get rid of the red flag laws.
FSU is always crawling with plain clothes officers and unmarked cars
Wait what the fuck?
I’ve seen a full on homeless man, with dreadlocks and scruffy blanket (urban Ghillie suit) sitting outside of a Waffle House. The local clubs were letting out and there were gunshots in the parking lot.
Dude stood up and radioed in shots fired and pulled an AR from the bag he was sitting on.
Tons of unmarked cars around campus with lights mounted in the grill and illegally tinted windows.
It’s a heavy security presence that you wouldn’t notice unless you were around it a lot.
We really are a police state.
Weird how that keeps happening.
“Nothing we can do about it, says the only nation in the world where this happens regularly”
I want to stress that it has absolutely nothing, I repeat, nothing at all to do with gun “culture” and easy access to guns.
Nothing at all. Promise!
/s
the word is ‘terrorist’
Um, actually, the tweet clearly says “Florida State University” not “Tesla Cybertruck” so no this wasn’t actually an act of terrorism, it was just a peaceful protest instead
you mean ‘troubled young man’ ? /sarc
almost like the groups mentioned are scarecrows for their rhetoric 🤔
Gonna gloss over this one, just another day in paradise
I was gonna say don’t you guys have like 1-2 mass shootings a day in the states? Not trying to be facetious here, genuinely asking. Because if it was like that in my country I’d have to become numb about it or go insane.
I don’t think it’s quite 1-2/day. But for a tiny bit of context there was one at a high school in Dallas either yesterday or the day before.
Well we don’t know because the republiQan party has maintained for a long time that the government explicitly not track them.
Who knows why? It’s a mystery!
I am absolutely numb to the shootings to a degree The amount of gun crime in America you would think we should all personally know someone who has been shot at before.
Yes, but you also can’t compare Netherlands to the USA apples to apples. You could maybe compare 2 New Jersey’s to the Netherlands in terms of density and size, and yeah Netherlands would easily win, but I guess I’m just trying to say that the USA is closer a group of countries in a continent, than a bunch of states in a country.
What a pile of bullshit.
Add up mass shootings in all of Europe then. Guess what? The numbers will still pale in comparison.
Yeah, I agree. Compare Europe to the US, that makes sense. Europe wins hands down.
Netherlands also wins hands down, but it’s not a fair comparison to make.
I’m in Canada. I’m comparing green apples to red apples.
I’ll trade you some rotten red apples for one drop of syrup.
I don’t even check anymore.
It’s entirely clear to me why these happen too.
Once you get into the headspace of a MAGA disillusionment is inevitable. In fact, i probably went through it and called it my fuck up phase.
But you know what. It takes real energy to hold up that reality. It’s also trying to starve you out, denying you any sound advise from anyone ever, treatments for serious mental illness, and ever increasing weight of more and more responsibilities: career, student loan debt, children, mortgage, personal health. It’s not even trying to break you, it wants to crush you. And if you’re losing at capitalism you’re going to spin out.
