I saw a post last year on that sub questioning the Jewish diaspora’s right to exist. The whole point of the Zionist colonial project is to destroy the Jewish diaspora. Conflating Zionism with Judaism when most Zionists aren’t even Jewish is a way for Zionists to cause further harm to the Jewish diaspora. The main stream media is probably going to pretend the genocide was entirely done by the Jews in effort to manufacture support to first deport Jews to “Israel” and then just start murdering them again. Weapons manufacturers are still making too much money by supporting the genocide.
I’ve always found it fascinating how many Israelis seem to have absolutely no love for their own religion or culture but use it as a shield to attack Muslims and whoever else in the crosshairs that week.
I find the phrase Jewish diaspora confusing. It assumes that there is a Jewish homeland (usually Israel) and as far as I’m aware we don’t use the similar phrases Christian diaspora or Muslim diaspora. It also assumes that all Jews view Israel as their homeland which is not true
I was always under the impression that the Jewish diaspora had more to do with the treatment of European Jews through history (read: really ducking bad). So it would be more that they had to keep moving as smaller units in order to avoid each new pogrom that came along
Honestly that’s what I assumed as well, but when I looked up the definition of diaspora I could only find definitions that refer to a homeland, and specifically for Jewish diaspora the homeland is always given as Israel (there’s a whole Wikipedia page about Jewish diaspora). But I wouldn’t be surprised if the definition of diaspora has changed over the years and that the connection to a homeland is relatively recent.
the connection to israel was always there, but until relatively recently it was essentially a myth. there was no chance some jew from a shtetl in poland would make it to israel.
the actual day to day reality that made the diaspora what it is is european antisemitism though. european jews were obviously european, but they were never allowed to feel at home in their countries. they were always treated as recent immigrants.
when jews started assimilating en-masse, the rest of europe responded with EVEN MORE antisemitism. (my personal theory is that assimilated jews scared european fathers because suddenly you couldnt tell who was jewish and who wasnt, and your daughter might end up dating a jew. the horror. it’s the “they’re taking our women” shit except against jews)
btw, european jews are STILL not allowed to feel at home in europe. eg, in hungary, in the popular consciousness, nobody counts the hundreds of thousands of hungarian jews liquidated in the holocaust as hungarians.
That’s a really great point. I used the term because it’s what was used most frequently when I was reading about it. But you are absolutely right. I will refrain from using that term in the future. I should probably have said Jewish people of the world.
Most Jews call theirselves a “diaspora” because they are not only a “religion” but an ethnoreligious folk, too. When they refer to theirselves as the “Jewish diaspora” they are referring to the majority of their people scattered all over the world from their spiritually ancestral (non-nationalistic and non-Zionist) land in Palestine.
Most viewed (and still view) Palestine as the Holy Land; the Almighty promised it to them after their exodus from misraim (Egypt). Eventually the Mashiah shall come by the Almighty’s orders and help them peacefully return to the Holy Land. This is why they call theirselves a “diaspora” (or “Galut” in Hebrew).
That’s interesting, thanks. Then the phrase must have gotten a second meaning after the creation of Israel which Israel and zionists probably love to exploit to imply that Israel does belong to and thus represents all Jews.
I saw a post last year on that sub questioning the Jewish diaspora’s right to exist. The whole point of the Zionist colonial project is to destroy the Jewish diaspora. Conflating Zionism with Judaism when most Zionists aren’t even Jewish is a way for Zionists to cause further harm to the Jewish diaspora. The main stream media is probably going to pretend the genocide was entirely done by the Jews in effort to manufacture support to first deport Jews to “Israel” and then just start murdering them again. Weapons manufacturers are still making too much money by supporting the genocide.
I’ve always found it fascinating how many Israelis seem to have absolutely no love for their own religion or culture but use it as a shield to attack Muslims and whoever else in the crosshairs that week.
One of the more disgusting tendencies of human nature comes from tribalism. The ends are used to justify the means for tribalists
I find the phrase Jewish diaspora confusing. It assumes that there is a Jewish homeland (usually Israel) and as far as I’m aware we don’t use the similar phrases Christian diaspora or Muslim diaspora. It also assumes that all Jews view Israel as their homeland which is not true
I was always under the impression that the Jewish diaspora had more to do with the treatment of European Jews through history (read: really ducking bad). So it would be more that they had to keep moving as smaller units in order to avoid each new pogrom that came along
Honestly that’s what I assumed as well, but when I looked up the definition of diaspora I could only find definitions that refer to a homeland, and specifically for Jewish diaspora the homeland is always given as Israel (there’s a whole Wikipedia page about Jewish diaspora). But I wouldn’t be surprised if the definition of diaspora has changed over the years and that the connection to a homeland is relatively recent.
the connection to israel was always there, but until relatively recently it was essentially a myth. there was no chance some jew from a shtetl in poland would make it to israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Shana_Haba'ah
the actual day to day reality that made the diaspora what it is is european antisemitism though. european jews were obviously european, but they were never allowed to feel at home in their countries. they were always treated as recent immigrants.
when jews started assimilating en-masse, the rest of europe responded with EVEN MORE antisemitism. (my personal theory is that assimilated jews scared european fathers because suddenly you couldnt tell who was jewish and who wasnt, and your daughter might end up dating a jew. the horror. it’s the “they’re taking our women” shit except against jews)
btw, european jews are STILL not allowed to feel at home in europe. eg, in hungary, in the popular consciousness, nobody counts the hundreds of thousands of hungarian jews liquidated in the holocaust as hungarians.
That’s a really great point. I used the term because it’s what was used most frequently when I was reading about it. But you are absolutely right. I will refrain from using that term in the future. I should probably have said Jewish people of the world.
Most Jews call theirselves a “diaspora” because they are not only a “religion” but an ethnoreligious folk, too. When they refer to theirselves as the “Jewish diaspora” they are referring to the majority of their people scattered all over the world from their spiritually ancestral (non-nationalistic and non-Zionist) land in Palestine.
Most viewed (and still view) Palestine as the Holy Land; the Almighty promised it to them after their exodus from misraim (Egypt). Eventually the Mashiah shall come by the Almighty’s orders and help them peacefully return to the Holy Land. This is why they call theirselves a “diaspora” (or “Galut” in Hebrew).
That’s interesting, thanks. Then the phrase must have gotten a second meaning after the creation of Israel which Israel and zionists probably love to exploit to imply that Israel does belong to and thus represents all Jews.
I mean the existence of Israel as it is goes against Judaism, that’s why lots of anti-Zionist rabbis say Zionism is a denomination of Judaism.
I never much thought about that phrase before, but, yeah, now I can see what a loaded term it is.