I found this chart on reddit some time ago, I thought to repost it here as well
Bupropion is interesting here. I’ve been on and off since I was literally a child. Last go-round I was on Effexor, Wellbutrin, and Adderall. Gained 40 lbs but I’m still not sure if that was the medication or I was on the medication because of life stress and it was the life stress. Would love to see more of these charts, I think it’s really well laid out and easy to read and compare.
I’m glad Buproprion has few side effects from this chart.
However, for those considering it, here’s some missing side effects:
- Can increase libido. (A lot.)
- Can reduce weight. (A lot.)
- Can reduce your appetite/eating. (A lot.)
I’m not saying these are pros or cons. Each person should assess how these side effects will affect their own situation.
Needs a column for “makes you feel like you are Being John Malkoviching as you linger behind your own eyes and watch another version of yourself interact with the world while being confused about who is actually controlling your vessel”, and put Bupropion at a 12.
That… explains a lot about a few months of my life
That shit is trippy as fuck to me, and not in a good way. More of a Twilight Zone sorta way.
I took Bupropion exactly once, and that day happened to coincide with the day of a first date. There was not a second date. I’d say something to her, but it wasn’t me, it was the “me” who was standing about three feet in front of me. I swear to Cotton Eyed Joe I could see the back of my own fucking head.
I didn’t get it nearly that acutely, but I made several stereotypical “crazy person sketches” of my view through my glasses with all the visible objects being written words instead of objects, trying to convey how lifeless and disconnected I felt from my own sensory input
a few years later I learned that’s called “dissociation” and it’s not supposed to happen 🫠
If y’all have had really bad side-effects look into pharmacogenomic testing, it can help rule out bad medicines before you try them
I had one done a while ago and it marked a ton of medicines that I had already tried, (and had bad effects from) and a bunch I hadn’t tried yet. Since then, I’ve had much fewer bad experiences
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the one I did had a specific brand name but I don’t remember what it was. (It was a while ago) I’m pretty sure this is what it was though
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you might have to remind your doctor about it when they’re prescribing medications, this still isn’t very well known afaik
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this isn’t sponsored/paid/other bullshit, this is an actual recommendation (though I felt like one of those ‘ask your doctor if !@#$ is right for you’ american commercials the entire time writing it)
I also had testing for psychiatric medication-gene interaction, and can recommend it as worth it (and am in the US)
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Seems to be missing the entire MAOI class (moclobemide, selegiline, phenelzine, tranylcypromine, isocarboxazid), and most tricyclics (clomipramine, imipramine, nortriptyline)
So… If you wanted to reduce population growth, you would make everyone depressed?
Seems like its working.
Had a doctor tell me I should never feel the antidepressant. Should be a background thing. Thought that was good advice.
Setraline leveled me the fuck out.
It’s kinda funny how much medicines’ effects can vary from person to person, I tried sertraline and had absolutely no difference, whereas my mother and my sister take it and it works for them
May I ask, what do you mean it leveled you out?
Anger flare ups stemming from depression. Took cognitive behavioral therapy for a time until I could learn the coping skills. Still take the setraline.
Have noticed when I wheen off/am off it am more prone to those flare ups. They don’t happen outright, I just notice them more prominently.
Can confirm, bupropion causes insomnia.
I sometimes have to take nighttime benadryl to help me sleep.
Been on it consistently for over a decade now and have always been funky with sleep. I started back in undergrad when the pressure of life left me spiralling out of control, and have since always thought I was just a weird sleeper.
I have insomnia semi often, usually anxiety-induced, but I’ve never thought that it could be the bupropion directly.
Very curious, and good to know.
An off label use for Trazadone is as a sleep aid. At doses under 150 mg it doesn’t really work as an antidepressant but will make you drowsy. I’ve been prescribed it before as the first step before Ambien
I thought it’s use as an antidepressant was completely discontinued because of that.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m not a doctor, just need help sleeping sometimes
Man, I wish we had these charts for all classes of medicines.
Tried a bunch of them, none really worked except for Venlafaxine. Had sexual dysfunktion which was an unacceptable side effect for me so I also quit them. This sucks.
I’m on Venlafaxine and the sexual dysfunction side effect does subside over time (months), at least that was my experience.
Had the same side effect with Citalopram, Sertraline and one or two others I tried, but I can’t remember. Basically that was the only effect I noticed until I tried Venlafaxine. All this happened in about 9 months because antidepressants usually need some time to properly get in/out the system. So maybe I’m just very sensitive in that regard.
Hmm maybe, it was noticeably improved after 9 months for me.
tbh I’m not dealing that long with side effects if I can’t handle them. But good for you.
Venlafaxine almost killed me which is fun :^)
Same here. Wasn’t funny at all.
Hey twinsies!
Is this chart actually used in prescribing patients? I find that concerning. I have abnormal metabolism on several of my CYP enzymes, plus I have other medications that are ligands of them as well.
For instance, there are people who have multiple gene copies of rapid metabolizing enzymes. They may not get any side effects, but may also not get any benefit.
An intermediate metabolizer may get a better response at lower doses and not have to worry about side effects at all.
Compared with someone who has two inactive copies of the primary metabolic enzyme, they may end up with significant side effects and no benefit at low doses.
The only way to know your metabolism is genetic testing. (Which they have studies for, and some insurances cover).
Yeah Mirtazapine fucked me up in the weight department
Same here. Soon as I stopped, the weight stopped!
Now I know y I dont have that much of a Craving for Sex anymore. Thought I just got old.
Antidepressants get such a bad rep, they’re truly amazing
