Cammy [she/her]

It’s more like he

What do you need therapy for? Just go visit that cave where you can look at ghosts.

Everything was designed to fit within Spira. Pyreflies made everything really pretty and because of them, there was some decent world building.

I had some complaints in another thread, but most of my complaints are just niche questions like about the food people ate and if there were animals besides fiends and monkeys.

Yeah, that’s bad. Thanks for the info.

Wait who?

Thanks for checking it out. It’s a rough dub and the story is somewhat nonlinear, but Sonic Adventure was rated E for Everyone and so having a story like that slip past my parents was really formative for my childhood.

And thanks! Cammy is always my pick when it’s an option.

Yeah, but that felt more like course correction. Having an explicitly evil inhuman enemy really simplified the morality themes in Sonic Adventure 2.

But hey, at least the movie wasn’t political!

Indeed. Here’s the super dark backstory they refused to adapt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtLsYuzCkZo

It just really hurts with an adaptation like this because it was an actually transgressive piece of media. It was deliberately about how things are more complicated than good people and bad people.

Not only did you play as antagonistic characters who helped saved the world, you got to see compassionate characters twisted into trying to destroy the world.

In the movie, they took agency and complexity away from Shadow, Gerald Robotnik, and Maria.

Maria’s final act was to save Shadow from G.U.N. at the cost of her own life and Gerald sought to avenge her death when he was overcome with grief. After he tried to find a cure for her fatal illness. Shadow’s whole arc was him realizing that Maria didn’t want revenge on the earth, but for him to live happily on it.

In the movie, Maria dies in an accident because Gerald was negligent enough to bring her along for no reason. G.U.N. isn’t held at fault and Gerald is a kooky villain with a musical sequence.

Oh my god an actual adaptation of Sonic Adventure 2 would have been so cool. But no, gotta have cop dad adventures and a clean G.U.N. agency.

Oh shit I think I get it.

It’s part of the reason Sonic doesn’t associate with any humans under 30.

He’s the Sonic the Hedgehog who wouldn’t judge a prospective adult viewer for being lame or an agent of capital and he’s not going to do anything that’s a potential bad influence for that viewer’s kids. He’ll grumble, but he will eat his vegetables.

But it’s more than that. In addition to making him seem more like 12 than 15, he’s just not that rebellious. He doesn’t defy authority. He doesn’t question authority. He works for authority. He’s not going to break the law to do the right thing.

Is there a reason Sonic looks like that?

That bugged me with the movie in addition to situating the movies in the real world. Sonic isn’t treat brained and he wouldn’t help cops, let alone live with one.

Portraying G.U.N. as mistaken good guys was bad and not arresting Sonic at the beginning was wrong on so many levels. And not just because they didn’t play City Escape at all.

G.U.N. shot Maria and a bunch of other people when they shut down the space station. And they made Gerald go without mentioning Maria in the whole movie. I still think about the scene in Sonic Adventure 2 where Gerald says his last words before being executed by G.U.N. at a fucking black site.

They didn’t need to have G.U.N. at all is the worst part. It’s a violent antagonistic organization that doesn’t have to exist in a Sonic movie continuity.

Hell, they didn’t even need to have Robotnik as a government scientist. He could’ve just been a scientist.

But no, they had to put as much of the US empire into the movies and then throw in free PR for Olive Garden.

It wouldn’t be so annoying if the movies didn’t try to make this grounded in the ‘real world’ and then do everything to hide the parts of the US that would actively harm Sonic and everything he supposedly stands for.

Lmao I’m heated about it too. I was about to go all in on Sonic liking chili dogs as the worst localization trivia that is stuck to Sonic.

:zapp-brannigan:

Final Fantasy X, a game with heavy enphasis on death and mourning, didn’t feature the death of a party member. Sin is terrible and named characters die to it, but it’s not the same. In fact there were few on-screen deaths.

Also, I wish the world didn’t feel like it had a population of 200. I get the population was dwindling after the thousand years, but it just felt so small. I think this could have been solved by having a larger unexplored world or by explicitly stating there are villages dotted all over Spira that the protagonists cannot explore on their journey.

Also also, over the course of 1000 years only five people performed the pilgrimage to the point of defeating Sin. The practice of the pilgrimage would have fallen out of favor with such a low success rate. I’d sooner expect Spirans to move underground in tunnels as mole people.

Also also also, there was no water Aeon. Leviathan deserves justice. More Aeons in general could have explored more heroes who defeated Sin in the past.

At least 3 had the Sonic’s invincibility flash.

Charmander - I would like a Flying Type eventually, though I think Charmander is really cute. Squirtle otherwise and is almost always my first pick.

Chikorita - would not evolve. I like the little thing.

Mudkip - Swampert seems like the most dependable water type final evolution.

Turtwig - Torterra is just cool.

Snivy - though I feel bad he loses arms upon evolution.

Chespin - though the humanoid final forms start to bother me here

Rowlet - A ghost type evolution is cool and I mean look at Rowlet.

No pick - the final forms have long since stopped being animals in an ecosystem and more humanoid references, but this was too far.

Fuecoco because his final form actually resembles an animal.

Having color?