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    Yeah I mean this tracks, wasn’t she killing Muslims in the middle east when she was secretary of state?

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    I’m sorry, but what the actual fuck?

    Why does she need to say that?

    And why is every democratic presidential nominee like this?

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    Hurwitz also claimed that Holocaust education was “confusing” young people into sympathizing with “weak, skinny Palestinians” instead of “powerful Israelis.”

    What. The. Fuck.

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            You kid but that’s the point she was making. She claims the lesson to learn from the Holocaust is not that we should help the weak when they are being pummeled by the strong, but, apparently, something like that Israel can do no wrong.

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              The problem with the holocaust wasn’t the genocide bit, it was the part that it was done to the jews apparently. I really can’t wrap my head around it.

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      Do you remember the movie were a team of corporate sponsored rich teenagers beat a team of orphans in a lacrosse championship? That was so uplifting and inspiring.

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        The Mighty Dicks?

        Field is Screams?

        Cool Gunnings?

        Victim blaming those weak pathetic losers is always the feel good movie of the year. Everyone wants to see the underdog lose.

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    Hey Hillary, do you know what I’d like to hear from you?

    Nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing. You fucking lost to the fascist the first time around and paved the way for his ascent to power. You are a HUGE fucking factor in how we got to where we are now.

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      She is a fascist herself who led the unilateral intervention on Libya that lead to the unnecessary deaths of 50k people in a civil war that didn’t need to happen, architected the pivot to Asia which will lead to WW3, and “promoted” LGBT rights internationally in a way that got LGBT people thrown under the bus world wide as a side effect of resisting American imperial power.

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        I’ve said it all through out her run in 2016.

        Shes not a democrat.

        Shes not a liberal.

        Shes just a Republican in a blue coat.

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          This distinction gives too much credit to democrats and liberals.

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          But it was her turn! Damnit, she was going to run regardless of how unpopular she was.

          It’s like the end of Happy Gilmore when Shooter McGavin grabs the jacket because it was his turn, he felt it was owed to him.

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            Probably wouldnt have trump today if it wasnt for the DNC sabotaging all the popular candidates to shove hilary down our throats.

            No one wanted hilary.

            and remember, Trump didnt even want to win. He just wanted to use running as a springboard for more attention. He was, by all accounts, upset with his intitial win because of how he felt he’d be restricted by the white house… granted all thats long since been gone since he learned how to manipulate the office to his favor (especially with charging the SS 4x more than anyone else for his weekly trips to maralago…) in his first time, and how hes fucking destroyed the country with his second with how he has undermined everything to go full narcoleptic cartman.

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              I think there were people who wanted Hillary, in the sense that they were perfectly fine with settling for her. But, there weren’t many people who were passionate supporters, and there were a lot of people who hated her. And, the way her campaign was run reflected that. It was basically “Hillary: what are you gonna do, vote for the other guy?”

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                And thats exactly what they did… because she cared more about catering to billionaires, holding secret meetings behind massive white noise generating speakers so no one could hear what was being said, than she cared about campaigning… Which is why she lost every state she couldnt even be bothered to make a single appearance in.

                People want to blame trump for everything, but Hilary being a shit, arrogant candidate that walked around like gods gift to freedom was absolutely a big part in trump winning.

                Because she couldnt even pretend to give a fuck.

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        “promoted” LGBT rights internationally in a way that got LGBT people thrown under the bus world wide as a side effect of resisting American imperial power.

        Hey I don’t like HRC but this take is pants on head unhinged. Shes not doing anti-LGBT 4D chess, she was just narcissistic/delusional to think she’d be anywhere charismatic enough to convince people internationally to treat LGBT people better.

        Do people in the global south & developing world have agency? Or are they simpletons being manipulated by grand puppet masters? If the answer is they have agency, the bigots that live in those places should own their bigotry and you shouldn’t do apologia for them. If the answer is they are simpletons well… ok.

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          You lack understanding of what I said then went way off the rails with your ridiculous finger wagging. We said the exact same fucking thing. I didn’t say she did it on purpose, I’m saying the way she did it got them thrown under the bus.

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            I’ll say she did it on purpose. There is no such thing as an unintended negative consequence of democrats’ actions. Not one. If they wanted to get the benefit of the doubt, they shouldn’t have supported genocide. They’ll need a lot of action to fix that. Not words. Democrats have demonstrated how worthless their words are.

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      If she could give a half decent blowjob the world would be a much nicer place

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      Sure. You realize how bad trump is, way worse than even Hillary. But it’s Americans that voted for trump over Hillary. It’s the stupidity of Americans that you should be blaming.
      It’s so funny how far people go to try to absolve themselves of responsibility.

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        Americans in very specific swing states in manipulated elections voted for Trump. Hilary actually won that election by several million votes. The USA is not a democracy and blaming voters is really a pathetic and wrong understanding of politics.

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          Ah yes, when it’s Russia then every Russian should suffer for not overthrowing Putin. But when it’s the US, Hillary actually won and “it wasn’t me” anyway, and blaming voters is pathetic.

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            But it’s Americans that voted for trump over Hillary. It’s the stupidity of Americans that you should be blaming.

            Blaming voters for not voting the right way is in fact pathetic, because their elections are fake. They couldn’t have voted differently because their votes don’t matter. I blame Americans but not for the reasons they were suggesting. I absolutely think that people in the US shouldn’t bother to vote and should instead destroy their fake democracy and settler colony. The USA is worse than Russia in every way. It is in fact the US who over threw the Russian government and installed Putin, it is amazing how they think it is the other way around

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          So she should have shifter further right to try to capture the votes in those specific swing states?

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              So she couldn’t have won no matter what. You’re saying she wasn’t a bad candidate, I guess.

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                I am saying she could have won if she moved left and promised to improve the material conditions the people she was asking to vote for her.

                Moving right does not earn democrats republican votes, it only decreases their own turnout.

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                  How would that have made her win? Her policy, and the history of the Democratic Party in contrast to the republicans is that she would be better for the people. Better is better. It doesn’t matter how much really. If people wanted better, they would already vote for her.

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                She was such a bad candidate that she personally couldn’t win no matter how far to the right she went. She might have stood a better chance if she treated the left flank of the party like she actually needed their votes.

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                  Why should she have to play games ‘motivating’ people who could see she was significantly better than trump? People didn’t bother to vote against trump - so they got trump. They have no one to blame but themselves.

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        I guess we can simply keep losing elections until they educate the entire populace.

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    Yeah, it couldn’t be the UN-confirmed genocide, nor the IDF-sanctioned videos of complete devastation, nor the steady wash of articles from journalists with decades of experience confirming utterly inhumane practices around aid distribution, rules of engagement and civilian deaths. Couldn’t be.

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      UN-confirmed

      In case anyone misread that, they mean the United Nations (UN) confirmed it.

      Yes, it’s a genocide. Genocide is bad. It’s not that fucking complicated.

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      Don’t forget the psytrance dances with dead babies in the background

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    61 million tons of rubble was just made up. It’s all styrofoam brought there by Iran.

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      I know the topic at hand is not funny but the image of huge, bouncy, floaty syrofoam buildings being dropped rom the air onto Gaza is very funny to me.

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    Hillary Clinton is why Donald Trump is president today. Her incompetence and evil led to Trump’s ascendancy.

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      In the US, democrats are considered the left/middle of the political spectrum.

      In the rest of the world, Democrats are considered right wing.

      This is some right wing shit.

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      No. It was the electoral college. She won the popular vote. Both parties work for Israel

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        She had Trump run for office, because she couldn’t beat the current GOP. Also she cheated in her own primary. Yes she the reason for Trump. And fuck her crawl back into your cave. We don’t need or want her input.

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        It should’ve been a landslide in her favor, but no one was getting excited at more neolib business as usual

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        https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

        In its self-described “pied piper” strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new “mainstream of the Republican Party” in order to try to increase Clinton’s chances of winning.

        The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”

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          Damn that’s horrible. Well my household checked the Bernie box. We were extremely upset with the DNC’s shady dealings.

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      Hillary is a POS. But to blame it on her, at least entirely, makes very little sense. There are numerous reasons why he won… despite the fact that HE lost the popular vote against her.

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        He won because democrat voters assumed the polls were right and no one was stupid enough to vote Trump. So they didn’t vote. America is very difficult to underestimate.

        As for 2024, who the fuck knows.

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          It’s not complicated, American voters vote out the incumbent if they’re not happy with how things in general are going. Obama won reelection because he was a fantastic speaker and politician. Trump would have lost this election if he was the incumbent.

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    Phew! I am extremely relieved to find out those videos are fake.

    It’s pretty fucked up of TikTok to have tricked us like that, but I’m sure under Larry Ellison’s new leadership they’ll sort things out.

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      Now that we know the genocide isn’t actually real, we can all pokemon-go to the nearest AIPAC funded democrat candidate and make sure the oldest, richest, set-in establishment dems remain in power through the midterms! yaaay!

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    Right, totally made up.

    What an insane thing to say.

    Edit: bottom of the screenshot showing how many have been killed since the “ceasefire.”

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      I think the “theory” is supposed to be that the stuff about it that makes Israel look bad is what’s supposedly totally made up. Like “Oh those dozen videos of IDF soldiers playing a game to see who could snipe the most children in the genitals? That’s not real. Those were Hamas fighters. If you dumb kids knew the whole story you would agree with us adults in the room that Israel is in the right here.”

      Still fucking psychotic, just a different flavor of psychotic.

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    “It’s a lot of young Jewish Americans who don’t know the history and don’t understand.”

    Oh they understand. That’s why they’re so unhappy. But, this is exactly the take I expect from one of the most out-of-touch people on the planet.

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      Centrists love to pretend that anyone who doesn’t immediately and totally buy whatever evil bullshit they spew just doesn’t understand how anything works.

      It’s dual-purpose: gaslighting and a thought-terminating cliche that lets genocidal monsters continue to falsely believe they’re the good guys.

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    This stupid, evil piece of shit. There are people all over the place trying to combat voter apathy and get them to the ballot to at least try to staunch the worst, and there she goes pouring more oil on the fires of defeatism.

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      You can’t vote your way out of this shit, even if you elect the greatest people ever to live, the entire system is built up with entrenched elites. The military, the media, the intelligence services, the judiciary, lobbyists, and so on. And people can be corrupt and selfish even if they start with good intentions.

      There is only one solution: revolution.

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        And how would you go about that revolution?

        Voter frustration is a more powerful support than voter apathy. Not voting leaves you with no target to be pissed at; having your vote betrayed provides your anger with direction.

        Voting may not be the solution, but it’s a tool for communicating and establishing public sentiment, and public sentiment is what separates revolution from a coup.

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          By building a people powered movement through solidarity, establishing workers co-operatives, industrial unionization, pro-revolutionary social spaces and through direct action. As the working class becomes increasingly organized and class conscious, we can increasingly reject capitalism and the state. If the working class refuses to perform labor for the ruling class, in an ideal world, we can remove them from power without a single loss of life. In reality, they would use violence against us, so we would need to be ready to defend ourselves.

          By all means, vote away, under our current system, it can be viewed as harm reduction. But if you have time and energy to spare, that time and energy would be far better spent agitating for real change and engaging in the activities I mentioned above.

          Vitally, learn about anarchism, and how it presents a solution to our deeply, fundamentally broken society.

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            By building a people powered movement through solidarity, establishing workers co-operatives, industrial unionization, pro-revolutionary social spaces and through direct action.

            Do you have concrete suggestions for what I personally could do? I often read these things online, but it feels like buzzwords and technical terms thrown around in the expectation that they should mean something to the audience, but I’m not sure they do.

            What I mostly do so far is try to sprinkle offhand comments into conversations to (hopefully) sow seeds of class consciousness without actually getting preachy and pushing people away. I don’t know how much that helps.

            Vitally, learn about anarchism, and how it presents a solution to our deeply, fundamentally broken society.

            I’ve had the anarchist FAQ tab open in my browser since forever, but I find it hard to read and work (by design) often leaves me too tired to meaningfully engage with it.

            This circles back into the issue of not knowing what to do: dedicated articles tend to be heavy on quotes, arguments why it’s important and general principles. I don’t need convincing, I need direction.

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              Sure, my suggestion would be to join the IWW (Industrial Workers of the World) and get involved locally with them or some other direct action group in your area.

              Hopefully where you live there is already a group of people doing these things and they can help you get more into it.