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    Pretty much. I’d absolutely love to run an idiot proof distro. If one existed.

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      Mint is right there. Very foolproof as far as I’ve tested with family and friends.

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        It’s what I have installed on my parents computer. Somewhat painful to do any sort of development in it though.

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          It’s really not primed for development. I’d use Arch, Fedora, openSUSE or Debian for that.

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            Indeed. I’ve been on Arch for a few years, and it’s great 99% of the time.

            But I really hate how sometimes you sit down to work and something broke and you have to tinker to figure out why instead of focusing on what you want to focus.

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              That’s the reason why I don’t main Arch. I’m already past the point where I have all the patience to tinker the conflicts away.

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                You’d think so, but like my experience with other distros people suggest as more stable has been even worse. I’ve never tried Debian, but I swear, next time this breaks down I’m going for that one and being happy with my packages from 1997.

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                  Time to embrace Infinite Term Support. I’m about to go Debian too, but for other reasons

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        Can I use Photoshop/lightroom and all the other software I need for work and play yet?

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          Can you use windows software on Mac or Android? It’s a different OS, tho wine and proton can make Photoshop and Lightroom work, it’s hit or miss tho. Most games work too save anti-cheat ones for some reason.

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            It wasn’t trying to be snarky, just genuinely asking because I’d love to switch to Linux and check in now and then but until I can safely work with heavy graphics processes on it reliably, I can’t switch. Main tools are DaVinci Resolve, Photoshop+LR, Blender, and Inkscape. For personal I make music with Bitwig (which has a Linux version I know that) and some other stuff, and I game on it now and then (drone simulator on Steam with a radio controller on usb, sometimes a bit of WoW), but these days I mostly game downstairs on the Xbox anyway.

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              Same here. I’ve been very interested in Linux for a long time but until creative/professional apps are available and reliable on Linux, it’ll be contained in a VM for now.

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              I can’t speak for Lightroom but Photoshop works through wine and Davinci resolve and blender is native on Linux. Source: I’m an artist using krita and blender on Linux. Also I use darktable as a substitute for Lightroom.

              Edit: specifically Photoshop 2018, but i use krita since i already use it for digital painting anyway.

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                Yeah as you can maybe tell from the list, I’ve already been trying hard to go to alternative/open source replacements to most of Adobe’s lineup but PS+LR is the engine behind the day to day work and I couldn’t find something to truly replace it just yet. The new AI stuff they’re bringing into PS isn’t going to make it any easier to ditch lest you’ll be left behind the competition…

                I’ll look at darktable, does it integrate well with PS? I need it to merge to HDR, and open as layers into PS.

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                  The new AI stuff they’re bringing into PS isn’t going to make it any easier to ditch lest you’ll be left behind the competition.

                  Yeah makes sense, in that case you’re better off sticking to windows since Adobe doesn’t officially support Linux.

                  does it integrate well with PS? I need it to merge to HDR, and open as layers into PS.

                  I have no idea what any of that means since I’m not that well versed in professional photo editing, but it is a raw/HDR photo processing thingy, adds effects non-destructively, as for integration with PS, you’re gonna have to try and find out. It works out for my workflow, e.i. just dragging and dropping images.

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                    Yeah I have a workflow that goes back and forth a lot between LR and PS, which includes opening multiple photos as a stack in PS. Also the way it works with file management where I can just save in PS and generate a new TIF with everything that’s in the LR catalog right away.

                    It’s something I have to do thousands of times a month and that process is quite dialed in, any changes that add time is multiplied like crazy so even like 1min extra per shot is not an option.

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          Gaming through Steam/Proton is easy and performant, but some games have invasive anti-cheat that won’t work on Linux, and some game companies turn Linux support purposely off.

          Photoshop and Lightroom both probably work through Wine (or maybe even Proton), but it isn’t guaranteed. Best option is to work with alternatives. I switched from PS to Krita years ago and have been happier than ever with the switch.

          There are many resources on Linux software that are alternatives (and often compatible with) windows-only software.

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        Yeah right. I tried Linux Mint, and I had so many problems I had to switch to KDE Neon. Admittedly like half of them were related to Nvidia, but lots of people have Nvidia.

        Even if I’m an outlier, I don’t think you understand what foolproof means. Maybe you set if up for them and they’ve never had to touch it, but most people don’t have that luxury, and also will probably need to touch it at some point.

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          I’ve never used it with a Nvidia card, was speaking mostly about mine and my family’s experience. I don’t currently know the state of Nvidia support on Mint at this moment, whether with the proprietary or open source drivers, so can’t give you any info on that.

          About being foolproof, it’s about being easy to use without having many footguns, not about being bug free.

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            But how is it easy to use? It’s easy to use once it’s set up I guess, as long as you don’t touch it. But again, most people will need to touch it I feel like, to install some software or something like that. Even if all you do is update every now and then, I have had updates that just completely break things, forcing me to roll back to a Timeshift snapshot, multiple times. I wouldn’t call that easy to use.

            I mean, I guess if your family had no major problems, they had no major problems. I just can’t figure out how they would’ve managed that.

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              What Mint install did you have that had that many issues? Installing apps has been easy for a long time already, just open the app store and pick what you need. Updates is the same thing: app store > update. Whenever something breaks for some reason, there are auto-created rollbacks on the boot menu. My partner is far from being a techie and they managed every daily operation without needing help from my part.

              I think we had vastly different experiences, probably because of hardware or release differences, but I never saw the kind of issues you’re commenting :/