• fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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    Nakba is David vs Goliath except David is a fascistic terrorist organization and ever-growing Goliath kicks the shit out of David every time.

    Perhaps don’t rely on a religious fascism for your liberation? Have you ever tried that?

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      You’re trying so hard to describe Hamas but ended up describing Israel in the process.

      It’s depressing that the world thinks Palestinians want every Jew dead, but there’s actually only one side saying “Death to all [race]” and it’s the Israelis.

      Meanwhile, Hamas rewrote its charter to remove antisemitism and declare its resistance to Zionism rather than Judaism, but they can’t be trusted because they’re evil muslims, and the Israelis are descendants of god (white Europeans).

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          It was pretty bad.

          fascistic terrorist organization is clearly the government of Israel.

          “Goliath kicks the shit out of David every time.” is however not Palestine, because sadly the genocide Israel is committing is indictive of it’s superior invading force against innocent families.

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            Ok, I’ll spell it out to you. In my analogy:

            • David: fascistic government of Palestine (also called Hamas)
            • Goliath: Israel

            I’m aware that in 1 Samuel 17, David is Isrealites, whereas Goliath represents Philistines. My analogy is a kind of a subversion of this traditional story.

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              David: fascistic government of Palestine (also called Hamas)

              I think @Deceptichum’s point is that Hamas isn’t the government of Palestine, has never been the government has only been the ruling party of the of the Palestinian Authority from 2006-2007, and didn’t exist in the Gaza Strip before 1988. Calling the various Palestinian organizations that opposed Israel’s aggression against Arabs ‘Hamas’ and labeling them collectively as ‘fascist’ seems absurd, given Israel is the other candidate in the analogy.

              Your analogy is terrible, not because people don’t understand the subversion, but because you’re wrong about basic facts.

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                  Thanks for the clarification. I’ve updated my comment to be more accurate.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority

                  In the Palestinian legislative elections on 25 January 2006, Hamas emerged victorious and nominated Ismail Haniyeh as the Authority’s Prime Minister. However, the national unity Palestinian government effectively collapsed, when a violent conflict between Hamas and Fatah erupted, mainly in the Gaza Strip. After the Gaza Strip was taken over by Hamas on 14 June 2007, the Authority’s Chairman Mahmoud Abbas dismissed the Hamas-led unity government and appointed Salam Fayyad as Prime Minister, dismissing Haniyeh. The move wasn’t recognized by Hamas, thus resulting in two separate administrations – the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and a rival Hamas government in the Gaza Strip.

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              The government of greater Palestine is Fatah.

              If you want to condemn a group, call them by their name, Hamas. Conflating the people of Palestine, the country of Palestine and Hamas is a disservice to humanity. It helps to dehumanize and we should avoid that

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                You’re right. I should’ve said “fascistic government of Gaza (also called Hamas)”. It’s often easy to conflate these, because they themselves call Gaza Palestine and themselves as palestinians.

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                  Yes. Fascist governments like to conflate their ideology, and the people who suffer under them.