• jet@hackertalks.com
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    I see you’ve changed the goal post from being grateful immediately, to being thankful in the future.

    Just because you don’t respect somebody’s occupation, doesn’t mean they don’t value their own occupation. Independence has huge psychological benefits for people.

    Not to mention refugees, are moved to places that already have economies, and land use, so there’s not going to be open land for shepherd to feed a flock on. They’re going to be competing with the locals.

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      I really don’t know why you are wasting your time arguing with people like him, he won’t see reason no matter how hard you try.

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        Because if we don’t argue, then the misanthropes get to have the final word. And then other normal people will look at the discussions, and think the misanthropes and the hateful people are in the majority.

        We have to participate so that our voices are heard, so that our peers, and are online peers, can see that they they are not alone.

        We can’t allow the normalization of hate and violence to destroy society, and that means we have to participate

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        agreeing with your ideology is never going to happen. believing in lies just doesnt jive with “seeing reason” for me.

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      you’re totally correctamundo about my complete and total lack of respect for their occupation - I reiterate, a garden gnome would be just as effective at herding animals as a shepherd. is being forced to do the same thing that your father did because he did the same thing his father did actually independence? it seems to me that’s flawed thinking. the world is constantly in flux - a rigid, uncompromising, unyielding nature isnt going to get you very far. that’s even more true when you’re going to get to experience new vistas.

      changed the goal post? should we be as unyielding as you’re insinuating that the shepherds are, or should be? should they be ungrateful in the now and regretful in the future? does it even matter? will they have to compete, strive, suffer? of course they will! suffering is part of the human condition - it has ever been thus.

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        1 year ago

        Your nihilist philosophy aside… We all live in a world, and we all have different life experiences, if you find yourself saying a different life experience isn’t worth living, that must be applied to you as well.

        As long as people aren’t interfering with each other, they should be allowed to live however they like… Be it goat herding, or being a professional sophist troll online

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          you know, I’ve thought about that a lot - it’s the great philosophical question of our age: does anything that we do actually matter? are we, as individuals, just so insignificant that our actions (whatever they may be) are meaningless? how do we, individually, impact the world? how do we strike our brand onto the graven slate of existence, proving that we’re here, we matter, we existed?! perhaps by exchanging barbs online.

          thank you for the compliment - I too thought that my logical argument, nay, position was indeed crafty in nature.