• Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 days ago

    You can’t sidestep issues that do not exist. Transphobes are not pushing bathroom bills in response to anything real. Trans people just need to pee. We are not a threat. There is no trans bathroom crime wave.

    You cannot sidestep trans issues. You cannot appease the transphobes by giving in to their demands. They are not motivated by anything real, and will move on to their next project to harm trans people. You cannot appease nazis. Give an inch they’ll take a mile. They won’t stand down if you change the bathrooms.

    Even so, solution requires retrofitting buildings. Expensive, slow, requires permitting. Its a good policy for new construction but does nothing to the vast majority of public buildings that already exist.

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      6 days ago

      I get that. But, you also have to understand that unisex bathrooms are the actual opposite of what they want, but still neutralise the issue. They keep saying that they don’t want men in the women’s bathroom. “Fine now it’s everyone’s bathroom so stfu” is an effective method of shooting them down.

      And guess what? There still isn’t any bathroom related crime at my university. We just don’t have to put up with people telling us where to take a shit.

      Besides it just requires putting propper cubicles in the bathroom. A competent building firm could have it done in a week. And it’s a lot cheaper than legal fees. And it doesn’t make people feel like they’re committing a seditious act by taking a shit.

      • Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        6 days ago

        building codes are only applied during construction or remodeling. Any state that changes their building code to only allow gender neutral restrooms will only have them on new construction. Existing buildings will continue to exist. Building codes have never been applied retroactively.

        You’re asking building owners to redo their restrooms at their own expense, to avoid legal fees? What legal fees? Bathroom crimes don’t exist. And even if they did they wouldn’t implicate the building owner. Your solution is not a solution. Mandating building owners remodel their existing restrooms at their own expense, or having the government fund those changes is a major ask, not a simple sidestep.

        The only places that could consider your sidestep are trans friendly places. Those places can instead do the simplest solution of stopping anti-trans bathroom laws, which is why they do that. There’s nothing New York could possibly do to sidestep a bathroom bill in Texas.

        Shooting down their bathroom complaints does not stop the transphobes. They need to be opposed directly at every opportunity.