• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t see any other way to remove the Hamas threat than what they’re doing.

    Then you need to do better. They can use special ops. They can appeal to the Palestinian people. They can revise their foreign policy to not set these situations up in the first place (see the previous 20 years of Israeli policy towards Palestine).

    They arent’ targeting Hamas, they are targeting any Palestinian with a pulse. Right now, you are acting as an apologist for a genocide and you should seriously reconsider your position. It will not age well.

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      1 year ago

      They can use special ops.

      If they could, they would have already done so.

      They can appeal to the Palestinian people.

      They’re doing that as well, but thinking that this would solve the situation is LOL, LMAO even.

      They can revise their foreign policy to not set these situations up in the first place (see the previous 20 years of Israeli policy towards Palestine).

      I see we’re getting back to “well they should have done xxxx”. Israel stopped the occupation of Gaza and let them have free elections to govern themselves. As a result Hamas with a stated goal of destroying Israel won and started doing terrorists attacks on towns around Gaza. So Israel built a wall. So maybe Palestinians can revisit their foreign policy towards Israel (see the previous 20 years of Palestinian policy towards Israel).

      They arent’ targeting Hamas, they are targeting any Palestinian with a pulse.

      Again, if they did that, they would have been levelling Gaza to the ground without risk to their soldiers, they have the resources to do so. They announced in advance that they will do an assault on northern Gaza to give civilians the chance to leave and go south for now, and even if they initially gave them ridiculously short 24 hours, the actual time given was days longer than that. Only, a large part of the civilians were prevented from doing so… Not by the IDF, but by Hamas, wanting to use them as human shields as usual.

      Right now, you are acting as an apologist for a genocide and you should seriously reconsider your position. It will not age well.

      Right now, you are acting as an apologist for a monstrous terrorist attack and you should seriously reconsider your position. It will not age well.

      If Israel actually commits genocide, I will change my position. So far that does not seem to be the case.

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        1 year ago

        Right now, you are acting as an apologist for a monstrous terrorist attack and you should seriously reconsider your position. It will not age well.

        This is a false equivalency. I feel sorry for what has happened to you, but its clear that their is no fixing it. You’ve warped yourself into a position where you are justifying the genocide of a people.

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          1 year ago

          Meh. I could literally say the same to you. I repeated what you said in an ironic manner, but I was serious about it. But it’s not like our argument has any influence on the real world anyway, so we’ll see how the situation develops in a year or two.

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              I wonder how the Jews of Europe would have responded if the worlds response was “Well we’re not really sure we consider this a genocide. Lets wait a year or two and see how this shakes out.”

              That is not what I said or meant. You keep misinterpreting my words to fit in your view of “anybody who disagrees with me has to be malicious”. That is not how reality works.

              You are a coward and a sorry creature. Its terrible what happened to Israel due to Hamas. But it in NO WAY justifies any course of action that Israel has since taken. Do better.

              You seem to be so convinced by only exposing yourself to completely one-sided views that you cannot even imagine that someone could disagree with you without being evil. You did not respond to most things I said in this discussion and now you’re calling me names. You’re the one who should “do better”, as useless as the phrase is.