• 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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      10 days ago

      There are few times when you can justifiably go after a person because of something a relation did. As much as I hate Elon, he’s not culpable for whatever his brother has or hasn’t done, unless he participated somehow.

      Let’s not stoop.

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        As much as I hate Elon, he’s not culpable for whatever his brother has or hasn’t done

        Elon is a known horndog and sex pest. I think it’s less “he’s responsible” and more “he’s just as mixed up in the Lolita Express gang as any of these assholes”.

        Incidentally, Gislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding. I don’t think that means Chelsea is a rapist. But I do think Bill is, and this kind of close relationship further illustrates the circle all these people ran in.

        • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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          Sure, but that was about Elon’s brother. Surely if Elon was involved with Epstein there will be evidence; it’s not like he was shy about being photographed.

          This guilty by association stuff feels like an witch trial evidence, when there’s plenty of stuff to hang Elon with that he did himself.

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          Unless you know something I don’t, Monica was consenting the entire time.

          And don’t say “he used his position of power to force her”. She said in multiple interviews that she enjoyed it and felt excited. The only time she started to feel negative feelings is whdn Linda Tripp got involved and betrayed her.

          These are Monicas own words. It wasn’t rape.

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            These are Monicas own words.

            Okay, now ask Juanita Broaddrick, Eileen Wellstone, and Sandra Allen James among others.

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              Oh, sure. No arguement from me there. I just hate it when people diminish what words mean.

              Unethical? Sure.

              It was also unethical when Jerry Seinfeld at age 37 dated a 17 year old during the height of Seinfeld.

              Also not rape. Nor illegal. Both of which I’ve heard various people claim.

              It also deletes words like “awful” and “predatory” from conversations. Despite being objectively true, I never hear people say those words about Clinton, or Seinfeld, or any of the other similar situations.

              And on a personal note, I don’t believe Micheal Jackson did anything wrong with kids. As in, I don’t think any events actually took place. Only three people were ever said to be victims. Two of them were later proven to be parents looking for a payday. And the third was Macully Culken. And he’s directly said over multiple decades, both as a kid, and later as an adult, that MJ never did anything wrong or inappropriate.

              So I think Micheal Jackson had to live his whole adult life being falsely accused of being a pedophile and a rapist when he never was.

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                The children could have been molested and their parents were also looking for a payday. They could both be true. I have no idea, I’m just saying that one doesn’t cancel out the other.

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          The thing is Bill does not seem to be a kiddie diddler. Aside from Monica Lewinsky and a Miss America contestant they tend to be later twenties to whatever his current age was. They affairs tended to be with women who were pretty and young whereas his alleged assault victims are all adults too.

          He’s vile but not a pedo

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            The thing is Bill does not seem to be a kiddie diddler.

            How low is the bar that we’re at “sexual assault isn’t such a big deal if they’re over eighteen”.

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                Nobody was talking about pedophilia before they brought it up.

                Epstein trafficked and abused plenty of older women, too.

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                  Really? I didn’t know that, his pedophilia is more well-known I guess. Thanks for informing me. Either way, you’re allowed to bring up new topics in a conversation.

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        You gotta understand that Elon as a business person has never been just Elon — it has always been Elon and Kimbal. They are thick as thieves, friend, there isn’t much humanity to be sqwozed here.

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      I never even wondered if muskrat had any siblings, he has such an “only child” energy that it didn’t seem worth even thinking about. Gotta read up on them (he apparently has a sister too). Can only guess what weird shit will come up.