cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/44641840
Machia voted for Trump, drawn by promises of border control and national security. “We didn’t want drugs or gangbangers,” he said. But what he didn’t expect was losing some of his most dedicated employees to immigration arrests.
“It’s scaring the farming community,” Machia admitted. “We didn’t think they’d come for the people who help us milk cows.”
LOL. Idiots
You have to be a unique kind of stupid to profit from illegal labour and vote to have illegals deported.
Not unique, unfortunately, but very common.
To be fair, they have been targeted very precisely with a military psychological operation that is explicitly geared to striking fear into the vulnerable and building poor political choices off of that fear.
Yes, they’re incredibly arrogant, violent, and stupid, but MAGA (and it’s prequel; Brexit) works off of fear and not much else. Maybe if they really like country music I guess that could be a thing. Or flags. It sure as hell doesn’t work off of reason or logic, obviously.
Nah, farmers would vote for Satan if he had a GOP endorsement.
Yea but like that one trans athlete won a race and the bitch that finished 5th was blonde so like, cant have that
She didn’t even win the race. She placed 1 position higher than the woman who freaked out.
Most of the crime from illegal migrants is from farm labourers, they should certainly have expected them to be targeted.
It seems to me that most of the crime comes from inside of the White House.
- Citation needed
Do you think its from university graduates ?
Pretty sure this guy is a criminal.
Stop moaning. It can’t possibly be hard work, because you pay a pittance.
It almost sounds as though this labour was chronically undervalued and absolutely taken for granted. If I strain my ears, hard, I can almost make out the dawning realizations.
I hope their fucking cows die. Idiots.
Not the cows fault
Fair point. I hope the cows rebel in an animal farm like scenario that sees them topple their oppressive rural overlords but to a better end result?
Really I just want to see deserving people have their faces eaten by leopards
To be fair, death is probably a better alternative to being a cow in the dairy industry.
Cows wouldn’t have voted for this shit.
I dunno, I feel like they’d be pretty susceptible to a populist campaign
Something about herd mentality
He fucking TOLD you what he was going to do. In very simple, plain language even.
To be fair, everything out of his mouth is a lie. He told us he was going to do many things.
Don’t worry, Dustin Machia, fifth-generation dairy farmer from Sheldon.
Sell your farm to Farmco Inc: their robots will milk your cows.
Buy an overpriced house in the city to live, maybe one with lots of drugs and gang-bangers.
Make sure you support Trump’s election bid in 2028, and/or vote for Donald Trump, Jr, lest a satanic Democrat moderate who defeated AOC by just a hair wins.
If you get age related health problems, look to RFK, Jr.
Remember the days when Americans and Canadians could cross the Vermont-Quebec border with relative ease? Those days are gone, and much of Canada, and perhaps a third of America, now hate people like you.
“I hate black people unless they work on my plantation” - GOP voters
It’s hilarious because it’s the same shit as Brexit. At its core it’s racist policies that amount to “we don’t like brown people”. Sometimes you need to watch the house burn for people to learn.
We voted for nazism and deportation, but didn’t think it would affect us and our undocumented workers. Trump his first term was economically really bad, but Trump said it was the best and I trust him more than facts and numbers so I voted for him again, but didn’t think he would fuck up the economy even more than before. I support the tariffs on China, but I didn’t think it would affect the price of fertilizer I import from there, so now my farm is going bankrupt because China now doesn’t want to buy my product anymore with the counter tariffs and they were my only customer. But I completely support Trump and fully trust him. Just from a cardboard box under the overpass from now on.
Now We’re Milking Cows Alone at 4 A.M.
Well, you voted Trump, now you get to milk it for all it’s worth. At 4 AM.
Get rekt, and pay a living wage next time you try and start a business.
Even though Machia says he would still vote for Trump, the recent crackdown has prompted a deeper reckoning within his community
Umm, okay, no sympathy then. Burn.
Imagine being so dedicated to a politician/political party that you’re no willing to make a change that costs you 0$ to save your family business
This is exactly when the interviewer should have looked right in their eyes and said “so you didn’t learn a god-damn thing” then “enjoy your udders” then left.
oh no, you lost access to the people you were viciously exploiting because of your racism?
well boo fucking hoo
Exploiting how? They were paid employees. Employed by idiots, obviously, but that in itself is not exploitative.
If they’re milking their own cows at 4 A.M. and complaining that there’s no migrants to do the work, then one has to wonder if it’s because they couldn’t hire a citizen at the rates they were paying. If they can’t hire a citizen at the rates they’re paying well…
…it means that citizens are too far above manual labor. Still doesn’t necessitate exploitation.
It doesn’t necessarily mean that at all, that is your own personal opinion, not fact. Pay people a decent livable wage and they will perform your manual labour.
You think they were paying a decent, livable wage?
Obviously not. That’s why they can’t hire people that aren’t at risk and exploitable.
This is why they want to fill the tech sector with h1b migrants. If they lose their job, they have a narrow window to find another corporate sponsor, or they get deported. This makes even the well paying, white collar, market exploitable in the same way we exploit migrant labor for farms.
all wage slavery is exploitation
L take, unless sarcasm
“A red is any son-of-a-bitch that wants thirty cents an hour when we’re payin’ twenty-five!”
This doesn’t feel like a genuine question, because it’s an open secret that a majority of american restaurants, farms, and construction outfits run on migrant labor at below minimum wage. I personally work in construction in Oregon, and I’m well aware of this, even hundreds of miles from a boarder.
I’m not American, so other than random articles I see shared on various social media of questionable reputation, I don’t know. So yes, it’s a genuine question.
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Yeah, because Vermont had so many issues at the Canafian border… and “gangbangers” are such a big problem in rural areas lol
GET FUCKED.
They have imagined a threat (there isn’t one) so they can imagine they are in danger or persecuted (they aren’t), so they can imagine they deserve a savior (they don’t), who they imagine Donald Trump to be (he most definitely isn’t one).
I’d say it’s a cult, but I doubt most cults even require this level of mental gymnastics.
Allow me to introduce you to most religion.
Is a religion not just a cult that really took off?
The difference between a religion and a cult is there is no longer someone in a religion that knows it’s all BS.
ROFL
Indeed, once it takes hold, it does its thing on its own like a virus.
Seems legit
It’s all by design
And the guy says he’d still vote for trump too
It’s strange. I live in rural VT and whenever i bike around you see Trump signs on a lot of farm fields. But then you read the newspaper and you read about ICE detaining legal employees at farms and the farmers being upset about it.
I genuinely don’t understand.
Complete and dangerous lack of education and critical thought in any capacity
Lies about brown people are their favorite, they can’t resist. They’ll believe anything you tell them as long as it’s bad.
Someone was bound to figure that out and start doing it (40 years ago)
If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.
-Lyndon B. Johnson
Propaganda works.
To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.
I come from a deep red state but all the farmers out there are Democrats, as are most degree holding individuals in general. It’s the people who work retail, the police, the oilfield, and the miners who all vote red.
“It’s scaring the farming community,” Machia admitted. “We didn’t think they’d come for the people who help us milk cows.”
You’re the cow now, Trump milks these rubes who don’t care what he says or does until it affects them.
This article is focusing on the wrong issue, forget the “woe-is-me-poor-farmer” BS. The real tragedy is the countless workers, ya know the ones that ACTUALLY do the labor that are jobless for justifiable fear of being called a terrorist invader and get a trip to an El Salvadorian prison.
Boo hoo, the workers you were exploiting can’t work. Too fucking bad. Do it yourself at 4 AM, it’s quite literally and explicitly what you voted for.
Is America finally great again ya fuck?
I agree with you about what the real issue is. That said, this kind of article is important. Remember that MAGA can’t empathize with someone unless they identify with that person. To MAGA, the struggles of immigrants are unimportant so focusing on them is targeting the wrong audience if we want to change minds. Highlighting the struggles of people MAGA can identify with might actually be able to change some minds.
Dude, the guy in the interview said he would vote for trump again anyway, no amount of identification will help those kind of people.
Just hope they have the day they voted for, and bless their heart.
The UK did the same thing just a few years ago and got the same results. The farmers and conservatives complained about it in the same words and tone. People were saying this exact scenario would happen in the USA. That’s all dismissed as fear mongering and they voted for it anyway, getting the same results and complaining in the same way. It’s stupidity playing on repeat.
They can’t empathize with people period. Even when it’s one of their own. This will not trigger empathy in any other magas.
Remember that MAGA can’t empathize with someone unless they identify with that person. To MAGA, the struggles of immigrants are unimportant so focusing on them is targeting the wrong audience if we want to change minds.
More Americans need to watch The Grapes of Wrath.
You’re right and I hate it
So you are… Checks notes 2200 miles away from the border. I feel like even if we disregard them voting for trump and just judge them based on that being their main voting issue, they’re dumb as fuck, aren’t they?
The guy is worried about gangs, yet lives in rural Vermont. What a fucking idiot.
It is kinda crazy how easy it seems to convince people the safest time in American history is the most dangerous.
Dude, fox news has crammed rural folks’ heads with so much terror, fear, and propaganda that they straight up believe that our cities- the very cities fox broadcasts from- are wartorn hellscapes brimming over with kiddie diddlers, drugs, and random violence. I used to work in a rural community with people that rarely went down to the central valley, and one dude in particular who watched Fox like he was gold medalist in it was always super freaked out anytime he/we went down to the valley. One time, he went to Modesto with another co-worker and, after they walked past one dude going the other way in a hurry, was like “holy shit dude, that was scary, I thought I was going to have to shoot that guy.” Second co-worker was like “dude, wtf is wrong with you, that guy was clearly just in a hurry”, but this clown swore that he felt their lives were in imminent danger.
I wouldn’t proceed with them armed, but that person would benefit from seeing how nice people are in urban areas
Idiot, or extreme coward?
… ok you got me, it’s both.
Never understimate the power of bigotry as a political motivator, in particular among the uneducated. Trump and his oligarch cronies certainly doesn’t.
No he’s near the Canadian border, which he was told was a major route for fentanyl.
what a bunch of fucking idiots. I’d laugh harder if the actual threat to my life wasn’t real.
