Like y’all keep posting about it, praising it, giving it free advertisement, and what not.

But the dev is a fascist, the discord server is a fascist bar, and the project thus is fascist.

I’ve met people who were harassed, I browsed through now deleted messages of Vaxry using slurrs and more.

So I wonder is if the people who post constantly about it know and are complicit, or just don’t know and would act otherwise?

It gets tiring to see the project be given “fame” when I know the roots of the plants are founded in toxicity & abuse.

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    Honestly I just stopped caring about developer’s personalities or political views. If you only use products made by nice guys who share your political views you won’t use anything in your life. Not even a phone.

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      your argument is a bit extreme, it doesn’t need to only be software from nice folks, it just needs to not be software made by not nice folks

      apart from sqlite, i think everything is replaceable with a bit of compromise

      what things made by not nice folks are you locked into?

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        I agree with the sentiment of supporting nice folks, especially in the FOSS ecosystem.

        What OS are you going to use on your Smartphone if you remove software from Google and Apple? What VR headset are you going to use? What telecom are you going to use? Are you only going to shop in local food markets? Lemmy’s creators are also biggots, yet here we are…

        I financially support projects and people I like, but I use whatever software I enjoy using. FOSS, closed source, made by a nice guy, bad guy. If I feel my experience is good I’ll use that, if something better appears along the way I’ll move on. I don’t want to be a cop and background check the political views of whoever created all the software, hardware, services, movies, books, etc I use. I’d do nothing else with my life.

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          What OS are you going to use on your Smartphone if you remove software from Google and Apple?

          People in the FOSS community constantly talk about the best ways to minimise use of Google, Apple and Microsoft products. That is an absolutely valid motivation for choosing to use one project over another.

          If someone is willing to use the behaviour of a company or its owners as a factor when choosing a software stack, presumably it’s valid to apply the same sentiment to development teams of smaller projects too.

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            I’ve gone though the Degoogle journey myself but there’s just no way to run a phone without software made by jerks. And that’s one example.

            You can use whatever criteria you want yo pick software, that’s fair. I don’t tend to include politics and personality into the equation myself but I’m not imposing anyone to do the same.

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      All the VR users that care about this sort of thing better be aware of Oculus’ founder Palmer Luckey too. Their friends will be so sad when they stop showing up in VR chat

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        Uhh if they cared about that they wouldn’t be using a meta owned headset in the first place. Palmer luckey sold oculus to facebook a decade ago

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          I’m just on the topic of people using tech from a morally compromised creator without being aware. Also idk about how transfering ownership absolves the sin. Even if it wasn’t meta that bought it but instead some ethical company it’s still riding on the shoulders of a giant (piece of shit).

          Don’t really get the down votes, maybe VR is a sore spot?

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        Well, I also have some bad news for the users of Apple, Amazon, Alphabet, Meta, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, Target, FedEx, Dell, Lowe’s, General Electric, Proctor & Gamble, IBM, Nvidia, AMD, Cisco, Publix, Intel, HP, United Airlines, Nike, Oracle, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Dow Chemical Company, Best Buy, Cargill, Koch Industries, H-E-B, Love’s, JPMorgan Chase, Johnson & Johnson,

        …I could go on.