• DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    this outcome has less to do with trump’s actions, and more to do with how the conservatives behaved in spite of those actions.

    I think enough people were like me, ready to vote conservative, but then lost faith in the party since they didnt really seem to have a plan on anything once trudeau was gone early. Pollievre’s stock tanked once people saw that Trudeau was gone, and what was happening in the world

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      3 hours ago

      Genuine question, what initially led you to wanting to vote conservative and what could they have run on for you to have stuck with then?

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      5 hours ago

      I don’t know that ‘Conservative’ exists anymore. I’m American, but I think these comments work everywhere else, as Authoritarianism rises.

      Growing up, I believed that liberal/conservative was just a difference in approach, but not a difference in end-goal. Both ‘teams’ wanted the country to prosper. In my 40s, now, I clearly see that we have different goals: Liberals want everyone to be prosperous, healthy, fulfilled. Conservatives value the prosperity only of those on top.

      You may identify as conservative, little ‘c’, respect tradition and be careful with spending, etc; but I want you to closely evaluate the actions of people using that label across the globe. A vote for a conservative or right-wing candidate is a vote for the top 1% or less of the population of the planet. They may align with you on some topics, such as religion, abortion, fiscal policies, regulations, and more; but that is a ploy and they are absolutely willing to throw you away as soon as they have your vote and will cut everything you depend on once in power in order to pad their own pockets.

      There are certainly perverse incentives and systemic issues that make even liberal politicians support bad policies, but the voter bloc that is ‘liberal’ wants to make things better for everyone. The conservative politicians, at least in the US where I’m paying attention, seem to be hell-bent on making things worse instead.

      This has less to do with Trump’s actions, and more to do with how the convervatives behaved…

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        4 hours ago

        This has been my experience as well and I’d like to highlight your insightful point on how it seemed like both options were still trying to work towards a greater good decades ago.

        Modern day conservatism seems entirely based on the ethos that inclusivity has gone too far. Since the world has become (in a very general and oversimplfying sense) more fair and inclusive over time, the ideology now feels inherently regressive.

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        4 hours ago

        The line between regressive and conservative is so hard to define. However the former certainly is in ascendancy in America.

    • Sixty@sh.itjust.works
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      5 hours ago

      Explain how they gained more seats then.

      The conservatives barely lost because the progressives and the BQ voters cut their legs off to hoist up the liberals.

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        2 hours ago

        We’ll see if the liberals take Quebec for granted like NDP did after Layton.

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          1 hour ago

          That’ll be important. We’ll also see how Canadians react to the atrocities the USA will commit in the next 4 years too however.