Canada should give Trump the Order of Canada for unifying the country. Do it.
I’m happy for you Canada.
You succeeded with America couldn’t.
Are y’all accepting asylum for programmers / tech professionals?
If you’re serious, start looking for companies hiring up here. As I understand it’s not easy, even for economic class immigrants, but I work in tech and I work with many immigrants (albeit not usually from the US, but it’s a different world now). Mind you - please look carefully into the financial impacts as it is a change from the US. Salaries are lower and taxes generally higher, which may or may not be offset in your context in other ways (healthcare a big one, income tax deductions, etc.) But many people, myself included, prefer Canada regardless of the reduced compensation. It’s not always about money.
Asylum, not yet. There’s still a treat on the books recognising America as equivalently safe. Presumably it will get rolled back soon.
If you’re serious, I can send you to the points quiz for economic immigrants.
yes!!
Fuck man, I wish I could afford move to Canada right now.
No one can afford to move to Canada. Our housing prices are stupid.
I can but they won’t let my friends in. I didn’t realize until I looked into it but national borders are actually quite rigid
You’d have to build new roots in a new place. I’ll admit I worry that I’m running out of time for that at my age, or at the very least the window is closing.
Makes me feel pretty depressed. I’m not super happy with the landscape of people I have to interact with. I have a lot of decent friends but I feel like the number of very close friendships I have is zero due to a lot of major value differences and low population.
I’m feeling the same way. I’ve been mostly “stuck” in wherever I just ended up. Part of me really does fantasize about fleeing somewhere better, especially being in a part of the US with an absolutely abysmal education record (and it shows. Oh boy.)
But besides the resources, I don’t have some ultra compelling reason for a non-volatile nation to bother letting me in.
There’s cool people here, and I try to get along with whomever, but forming relationships feels really high stakes these days since contested politics and tribalism is infecting every facet of peoples’ lives.
this outcome has less to do with trump’s actions, and more to do with how the conservatives behaved in spite of those actions.
I think enough people were like me, ready to vote conservative, but then lost faith in the party since they didnt really seem to have a plan on anything once trudeau was gone early. Pollievre’s stock tanked once people saw that Trudeau was gone, and what was happening in the world
Explain how they gained more seats then.
The conservatives barely lost because the progressives and the BQ voters cut their legs off to hoist up the liberals.
Long as you’re voting against fascists man
Poillievre flirted with Trumpian rhetoric though.
He tried to mimic 2016 2020 trump. And it was palatteable to many
But when the 2025 version came out. It disgusted people
Mark Carnage
An absolute Carnageddon for PP
Ironically, Trudeau hanging around for a long as he did may have saved Canada. If this election had happened in the middle of last year, the Conservatives would have probably won and combined with Trump, it would have been a disaster. Possibly the smartest/luckiest thing he has ever done.
At the end of the day it all comes down to the role of the dice.
in this case it was the early voter turnout and the special ballots that really lifted it. And we cannot ever forget Bloc. They did a huge push on this one. No one hates Trump quite as much as Quebecois and they showed it 20 fold. Quite a ride watching all this. Especially what with the cyber attacks on the PM during this short campaign was relentless as was the propaganda radios. It honestly should be a case study on how out of control the propaganda was getting on X and facebook.
Trump made Québécois what Canadians themselves couldn’t do, make Québécois more Canadian.
Cannot believe I’m living in an era where Alberta is more separatist than Quebec.
This feels like a short-term win but a long-term loss. Carney is a centrist, a former banker that’s in to a lot of conservative ideas. He feels like Biden 2.0, the conservatives only losing because of Trump’s unhinged rantings. MAGA-ism has gained a huge foothold in Canada, and turning to a do nothing centrist is only going to do so much.
Eh. If Trump keeps sending shit our way it will be really easy to succeed against them. You know what happened to the British League of Fascists back in the day?
that’s in to a lot of conservative ideas
Fiscal conservative ideas, maybe.
Socially he’s relatively liberal. Maybe not quite as much as Trudeau, but nowhere near what the CPC has become.
We don’t need fiscal conservatism right now either. People are suffering and they’ve been told to tighten their belts too many times.
He sounds like he’s ready to spend on capitol projects at the moment.
In his book he calls for government spending on capital projects in order to kick-start private investment in expanding their businesses (and payrolls, ultimately leading to more employees in better paid jobs and therefore at a higher taxable level)
Trump didnt cause the Conservatives to lose, they did that themselves with how they acted in spite of how Conservatives across the world were acting… and the fact that most of their platform revolved around just screaming “we’re not the liberals, we’re not trudeau”
they acted with an extreme amount of entitlement. that because the liberals had ruined the country for 10 years, it was now their turn. couple that with a lot of snide, childish shitposting, and an absolute bombardment of anti-trudeau ads and rhetoric, they basically bullied trudeau out of office, and once he was gone, they didnt have a platform anymore.
then enter the Trump , Trade war, and threats of Invasion shit. The conservatives basically waffled during this foreign policy crisis that pissed a lot of people off. the reality had changed and a lot of people felt like bringing a party that was polluted with the far right, was now no longer tenable.
On what do you base the “do nothing” comment?
That’s a win to me. Not every one on the left wanted a social left leader. Social issues are important. But the economy right now is the biggest fire.
Electoral Reform will be passed this time… right?
It was not in the platform. I’ll settle for staying sovereign, maybe we can clean up FPTP later.
Of course it will … hahahahaha
Most shocking news of 2025
Narrowly.
Are you guys not horrified of what’s happening south? If you interpret this as a win and go on, your country is going to be mega conservative in like a decade.
No, this is an existential crisis, and you need to shut off the propaganda machines before it’s too late.
It’s after a full decade of Liberal rule. Do you know how hard it is to win after that long being blamed for everyone’s problems? THis is huge.
Agreed. Incumbents always do worse in the next election. Makes me shudder to think what the result of the next election is going to be. Trudeau’s latest term was really bad and they got no punishment for it whatsoever thanks to the gift from the south. And Canada seems to be moving further and further away from proportional representation. So who will voters swing to next election?
Great result for today’s Canadians. Terrifying result for future Canadians.
I would point out though that a CPC win would have been a terrifying result for future AND current Canadians. So I guess that’s a small win?
Quite true. The reason for celebration is that had the conservatives won they were planning to defund our public broadcaster right off the bat. We need all kinds of reforms but having the CBC around to report on them will be quite important.
Look, we’ve had the liberals for ten years now. Theyve won 4 elections at this point. It’s amazing they won anything at all this time.
Justin fatigue was real. Carney coming in, demolishing the only thing the conservative dingdongs were campaigning about and just being overall a very respectable candidate turned things around. Along with the orange monkey down there.
It was mostly Trump. Americans polls did something similar after 9/11. The candidates involved just put it over the top.
It was still waaaaaaay too close
Considering the massive lead the conservatives once had it isn’t really ‘that’ close. Liberal gains were astonishing once Carney entered the ring.
40%+ of voters still went for pp. That’s too high, and with our shitty fptp, it made it worse
What do you mean “narrowly”? It’s a clean victory and the trumpist conservative leader lost his own riding.
Liberals projected to hold a slim minority, the NPD was all but annihilated, Liberals will be forced to reach across the isle and work with the BQ.
Are the Bloc easier to work with than the NDP? history suggests no.
Not quite. There’s still enough polls left to report that could lead to a Liberal majority, even if that doesn’t happen (it’s quite unlikely), then current projections are that the NDP will have enough seats to support the minority government, even though the Bloc will hold more seats overall than the NDP.
The numbers allow a continuation of a Liberal-NDP confidence-and-supply arrangement. This is a good result for those of us who don’t trust a banker to not sell out the working class.
The numbers allow a continuation of a Liberal-NDP confidence-and-supply arrangement.
Or a less formal agreement, if there is no appetite for a similar arrangement as last time.
Or, my preference, working to consensus with both BQ and NDP.
Or a more formal agreement. I’ve heard some complaining about not having any NDP ministers, but I don’t know if that’s mainstream.
Or, my preference, working to consensus with both BQ and NDP.
Eh, it sounds like the Bloc really wants a rematch. Now’s not the time to risk that.
it sounds like the Bloc really wants a rematch.
I doubt they’ll try to topple the government until the threat of Trump is neutralized. Or at least significantly muted. They have a common goal with the rest of the country on that issue.
Plus, what’s their warchest look like at the moment?
Yeah, I don’t know for sure. I was going off of what Chantal said on CBC, but the again she though the last government would be short lived, too.
Australian chiming in here and we have an election in a few days time.
The current Opposition Leader is running on a platform of Trump Wannabee.
I really really hope our country tells him to stick it up his fucking ass.
Let’s go mates. Kick them bootlicker asses.
rooting for you aussies. Love and strength from Germany <3
Cheers dude. We have to come together across all borders to end this shit.
Honestley, I was going to vote conservative, even after Trump. And then Pollievre went into third gear with Woke Derangement Syndrome, the guy was having unhinged rants. Couldn’t get a paragraph out without mentioning woke. Ask him to define it, and he’d either PP.EXE stop responding, or he’d fly off the handle with pre-programmed slogans.
Stupid people on both sides of the race. But that was what turned me.
I’m curious, what attracted you to the Conservatives prior to the Maple-MAGA movement?
the last 4 elections I’d voted L > C > C > L
Im a moderate. I thought that the Trudeau Liberals had gone too far left back during the Scheer and Otoole days. Come this time around, I just lost any confidence I had in the Conservative party because they built their identity on “we’re not the liberals”. and failed to convince me they werent just going to kowtow to American Corpo-Fascist interests.
But if you would have asked me about specific policies that irked me to turn Conservative during the past … its been a long time, I’d probably just point to specific times and incidents over the gun policy, immigration, corruption with the SNC lavalin scandal, and maybe foreign policy. I live in a very ignorant and uneducated town in a NS riding that had been pretty hardcore conservative the last 2-3 elections, and my peers probably played a hand in influencing my issues. I thought our riding was solidly going to remain Conservative, CTV projected Cons won, but several hours later they reversed it and Libs have apparentley won it.
Foreign Policy has always been a major “issue” of mine too, Until 2025 when we were faced with the nonzero possibility of actual aggression and conflict with America, the biggest thing that would influence my vote was how seriously the party was going to take the issue of us being more or less, de-facto at war with Russia, Because the “shadow” World War III is something that in my mind took precedent.
Not the original commentor, but the people I’ve discussed this with usually say one of 4 things. These aren’t necessarily my views, just what I’ve heard from others:
- The government is too easy on crime and we grant people bail who are dangerous to release.
- Gun control is a waste of time and money and isn’t tackling the real issue as nearly all gun crime isn’t committed by legal gun owners.
- More housing needs to be made (note that both major parties seem to agree on this).
- More infrastructure needs to be built to capitalize on our oil and natural resources exports.
The government is too easy on crime and we grant people bail who are dangerous to release.
The left has dropped the ball on crime. Official lefty party lines on crime, of tolerating criminals, doesn’t resonate with ordinary people.
Gun control is a waste of time and money and isn’t tackling the real issue as nearly all gun crime isn’t committed by legal gun owners.
The right has created a wedge issue, and exploited it with Twitter trolls and paid shills. We’d be better off doing what Australia did, and ban almost everything.
More housing needs to be made (note that both major parties seem to agree on this).
The right sees it as building more housing, and think it is a simple fix. A small proportion of progressive voices see it as a complex issue of finance and trying to remove corporate ownership of residential stock. The subtle arguments have a hard time being heard.
More infrastructure needs to be built to capitalize on our oil and natural resources exports.
I’ve given up mostly, the planet will burn. Our species is too stupid, eventually we’ll go extinct. Climate will degrade, wars will escalate, and sooner or latter someone will push The Button.
I completely agree with everything you’ve said.
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Conservatives made significant inroads, lots of people in Ontario and Atlantic Canada that heard and liked the anti-woke messaging. I don’t know how to bring these people around, and am frightened that there are so many of them. Over 40% of the popular vote.
Aight, Canada. Now you owe us!
Kind of a bummer watching how duopolistic Canada is, TBH.
FPTP do be like that. It’s actually kind or remarkable we have significant minor parties.
If coalition governments are more democratic it’s crazy how France, Austria, Germany, and Czech Republic (and probably more) all support genocide, prevent protests against it, accuse citizens of being antisemites, and veto attempts by international courts to do something about genocide. But then again, other coalitions like in Belgium can go against the trend.
At least Canada’s two party system turned away from Trump. Canadians did better with two parties than other countries can do with 20.
At least Canada’s two party system turned away from Trump.
For now. America did the same in 2020, not that it mattered in the end.
Turning away from Trump doesn’t matter when you get the same result wrapped in a more polite package.
