• proudblond@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Any car is sold at a loss. As someone who recently paid one of these off, I can’t stomach a new car payment in the face of our melting economy because six years ago I didn’t foresee the head of a car company turning out to be a freaking nazi.

    Considering my Tesla replaced a VW TDI, I’m feeling particularly salty and completely disillusioned about ethical consumption under capitalism, etc. etc. I wish people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

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      8 hours ago

      No one cares when you bought. You’re supposed to flood the used Tesla market to suppress new sales happening NOW.

      I’ve heard a lot of excuses from Tesla drivers about how they can’t afford to stand for their ethics. It’s pathetic. How are we to believe this from anyone who could afford one in the first place?

      Plot yourself on the historical spectrum of “what was I willing to give up for my ideals” and that brave moral stand about not having a car payment looks pretty fucking limp.

      I have empathy for you. I’m just more concerns with your soul than your car payment.

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      18 hours ago

      people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

      Costs 1 EUR and takes 10sec to put a sticker on a Tesla that says “I bought this before Elon went mad” and plenty of people on Lemmy would understand I bet. It’s more of a gesture to show that one having a Tesla does not support the actions of the its CEO. A Tesla without even a sticker on is assumed to be owned by someone who knows yet either does not care or even supports Musk.

    • anotherandrew@lemmy.mixdown.ca
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      2 days ago

      I’m currently driving that VW TDI – best car I’ve ever owned in 35 years. Next vehicle wasn’t going to be a Tesla, but perhaps an F150 Lightning if they ever get their head out their asses and offer a regular old e-pickup – I don’t want quad cab and a short bed, just two doors and a regular full size bed would be great. Alas, that’s hard to find in ICE, let alone electric.

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        1 day ago

        That emissions cheating soured me on them

        (Though I do believe they used a clever method)

        Glad it’s so good!

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          1 day ago

          The dumbest part is that after I got my car updated (the Passat only needed a firmware update) the fuel economy was not even one MPG worse. It’s been a decade and I’m still regularly getting slightly better than 50MPG on the highway and low-30s in the city. There was no reason to cheat.

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            20 hours ago

            No way!

            Was the cheat focused on the rest of the fleet (larger cars?), but applied to all [JIC]? 🤔


            50+ wao

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              20 hours ago

              It’s my understanding that the cheat was in all TDI models, but the smaller Jetta was particularly bad because it didn’t have a urea system and the fix for that model was to retrofit one. My Passat may have needed a more robust urea injector and not just software, but I can’t remember now. Either way on my year/model the fix was barely noticeable.

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                6 hours ago

                How do you fill a urea tank on a passenger vehicle? I don’t see those pumps at the gas station, and doubt it’s as easy as peeing into a bottle…

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                  3 hours ago

                  It’s just like the DEF tanks on 18 wheelers. I buy a 10L jug of it from Walmart for something like $10. In my trunk there’s a panel you remove and under it there’s a small cap very similar to the gas cap. Remove that, hook up the DEF bottle hose (the bottles come with a 12-15" corrugated hose) and very slowly pour it in. You don’t want to spill that stuff, it’s nasty not because it’s urea, but because when it dries it kind of crystallizes and makes a real bloody awful mess.

                  Replace the cap, replace the panel cover, close the trunk and you’re done for another 9-15mos.

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      2 days ago

      He was a boldfaced liar six years ago, too. You fell for the “full self driving by 2016” scam and the other false claims and fabrications.

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        1 day ago

        We did not purchase full self driving. My husband rightfully thought that it was a bit of a pipe dream. I’m too much of a control freak to allow a car to drive for me. Also six years ago was 2019 so if you think I fell for “full self driving by 2016” then I think you can’t do math.

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          13 hours ago

          Are you suggesting that full self driving was fully implemented by 2019? Because it’s 2025 and it’s still not ready. How have I failed at math?

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              4 hours ago

              But if the scam was already running for three years, then it seems all the more sensible not to trust this person, no? How is it better that people are still falling for his lies after a decade?

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        1 day ago

        That’s assuming a lot. I wanted a car that was fast, electric, had easy charging, good range, and didn’t cost $100,000. 5 years ago, that was a Model 3.

        Didn’t give a shit about Musk’s lies, always knew he was full of it and was a typical scumbag CEO; I did not peg him as someone to go full on Nazi mode.

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          4 hours ago

          If you knew then that he was a liar, then I really don’t see how you can complain about it now. You evidently knew which business you were getting into.