• MeanEYE
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      Love the fact community is already mocking the fact they have distribution issues. While I had Twitter account their PR team was going full force demonstrating how it can be used and promoting projects that use it… all the while it’s out of stock everywhere, constantly. I would have number of sites “notify” me when they are back in stock, only to be sold out seconds after. Luckily kind person shared a site which tracks where it can be purchased and for what amount but the mere fact such a tool has to exist just shows there’s a serious problem.

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    Doesn’t sound like the ‘cheap small computer you can run your hobby electronics project on’ that the original Pi used to be. It is not as cheap and a power hungry beast, still small, though. More and more like a PC and less and less a small cheap embedded platform. For some people it is a plus (I guess for most people here), for some not so much.

    I tend to build my projects on Raspberry Pi Pico now, but sometimes I would need something more powerful and Raspberry Pi 5 will be too much.

    • @RegalPotoo@lemmy.world
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      The project goal has never been a ‘cheap small computer you can run your hobby electronics project on’. The whole point of the project is to build a small cheap PC to give away to school children to increase computer literacy, while making it attractive enough for normal people to buy to fund the charity side

    • Hydroel
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      Isn’t the Pi 3B still available for that kind of job?

        • @Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz
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          I just noticed on rpilocator that there are a couple US sellers who have RPi4-1GB boards in stock for $35. I might have to try and snag one since my Kodi device has been acting up lately.

        • Hydroel
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          But there already is a device that answer that specific need, so it wouldn’t make sense for the Raspberry 5 to replace it.

      • Jajcus
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        Not that easily and cheaply as they used to be.

      • @TrejoPhD@lemmy.world
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        And the 4B

        Right now getting compute modules is the hard part. When the inevitable CM5 comes out…

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          Pi zero W has WiFi, alternatively there are hats available. And yes they can run a full Rasbian OS.

    • phillaholic
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      You can buy beelink small form factor pcs from Amazon for around $150 with cases and power supplies included.

      • @peregus@lemmy.world
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        But…he said that it’s not as cheap as it used to be and too power hungry and you propose an 150$ PC?

        • phillaholic
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          I’m agreeing with them. By the time you buy the Pi 5, and all the add-ons you need, it’s going to rival these SFF systems with full x86 Intel chips with efficiency cores.

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              Case, cooler, power supply, storage at minimum, dongle/adapters probably too.

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                  It isn’t, you can get SFF PCs for as little as $75 on eBay that have Quicksync CPUs and will run circles around a RPi, especially if you have to do any transcoding. They are also really power efficient… 7-20W idles.

                  https://www.ebay.com/itm/195163970881

                  SBCs really should no longer be considered for selfhosting unless you are A) in an extremely power constrained environment like an off-grid RV or vanlife situation or B) clustering

    • Avid Amoeba
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      I think they still make the older ones if you want something middle-of-the-road.

      • Corgana
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        Yes, the numbers on a Pi aren’t referring to a “version” like with the iPhone, but to it’s power. A Pi Zero isn’t the oldest, it’s the simplest.

      • @evidences@lemmy.world
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        4s were pretty easy to find pre 2020, I bought one at launch and 2 more before the pandemic hit and I never paid more than MSRP for any of them.

        • @Gregers@lemmy.world
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          I didn’t know they were that hard to find now. I have a few of every generation and they were never hard to find, or expensive. Must have bought my 4s before the pandemic as well I guess

    • @Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world
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      Just wait until the market stabilizes.

      These aren’t GPUs in the crypto boom, they don’t produce their own profit. Stop buying from scalpers and the price will crater.

      • @Eyelessoozeguy@lemmy.world
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        It’s not the everyman buying from scalpers its industry buying cheap pis over plc, when it’s that much cheaper scalper prices isnt much to them. And they need them NOW. Gotta love just in time manufacturing.

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    At $80 a pop, might get more oomph from an older optiplex if electricity cost isn’t too big of a concern?

    • @Goodvibes@lemmy.cafe
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      That display out will be hard to match with an old optiplex or laptop, but I agree, the pricing is getting less absurdly low and more just moderately low.

      • @Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        To be fair, I’m guessing the majority of Pi’s are used headless anyway. Plus even the older Optiplexes have DVI, which is just HDMI without the audio or fancy stuff like ARC. Won’t be getting 4K or anything, but still a very good video output and IMO adequate for almost all use cases.

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          I’m betting a decent amount of them are used as media PCs. The x265 decoding, 4kx60hz output, 2x speed ram and better wifi are much appreciated for that application.

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        True. I’m looking for an extra headless system so it doesn’t directly affect me, but that could certainly be a concern if you’re in need for 4K.

    • @Richard@lemmy.world
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      It’s definitely worth thinking about your use case and whether a second hand mini-pc of some sort is a better option. Along with the Pi itself many people are probably going to need a new case and quite possibly a power adapter too given the new power profile. An older PC where that’s taken care off, and where you probably have a 120GB SSD included, could be the better option for some people.

          • @ShranTheWaterPoloFan@startrek.website
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            Because it’s what they will buy, it’s what I’ll buy. And it suits their argument. Calling people out for not reading the article when they are quoting a price from the article is silly though.

            That being said, I don’t really buy the comparison between the optiflex and the pi. It’s like saying you can buy a perfectly good Geo metro as opposed to building a kit bike.

          • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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            For me, the pi 4 4GB had been the sweet spot, however they’re saying pi 5 is roughly twice as fast, so I’m expecting 8GB to be the sweet spot

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    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    IoT Internet of Things for device controllers
    NVMe Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage
    PCIe Peripheral Component Interconnect Express
    PoE Power over Ethernet
    RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC
    SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
    SBC Single-Board Computer
    SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

    8 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 9 acronyms.

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  • @Lasso1971@thelemmy.club
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    Since switching my server to an x86 based platform, I’m not jumping back to arm any time soon. Maybe some day

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    Don’t go for a Pi. They don’t run stock Linux anyway.

    I would get a board from pine64. There are also plenty of other options that are cheaper

    Used mini PCs are also an option

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            This is true with ARM in general. There’s no “standard Linux” to boot because every board needs its own device tree and set of core kernel modules for detecting important things like local storage. It’s fairly intractable due to how different the hardware is.

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              I’ve heard this argumane before but that doesn’t change the fact that some socs work out of the box and require no proprietary software or custom configs

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                Yeah for the majority of standardized hardware solutions sure. But the Pi is an one-off, as well as all the other single board computers. IANALOSD.

        • @Username@feddit.de
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          Wow, I was sure Raspberry Pi were pretty good about mainline support, especially since multiple distros support the platform.
          Software support is still very good compared to pretty much every other arm board.

    • @Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca
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      They can, just need correct drivers. We have mainline Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu for them now.

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      Currently, and I could be wrong, the alternative to a Pi 4 from Pine64 now would be a Pine64’s Quartz64 Model B. A Star64 might be interesting, but that’s RISC-V so who knows what OS you could boot on it currently and if it would even be stable.

      Plus with the Quartz64 Model B, who knows if you’ll able to get a good case for it. There’s the $28 “Model B” ALUMINUM WATERPROOF ENCLOSURE, but, eh, no thanks. There’s the open enclosure, but that’s also a no for me. I want a case I can hide the device itself, the cables, put a heatsink and fan on, be able to use an SSD with USB connect and connect a power supply all stuffed in a case. Which you can find plenty of for Raspberry Pi’s.

      Not to mention the Pi 5 isn’t even out yet, and it’s entirely possible it’ll be better than the Quartz64 Model B, on top of having a ton of accessories. Plus, I can Pi up practically any Pi at the Microcenter or similar store near me as opposed to having to pay for good shipping.

      I’m totally for having alternatives to the Pi, heck I might pick up a Quartz64 Model B if I can find a case, but a lot of alternatives don’t have the same support and accessories the Pis do.

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      Preorders are available now

      …at several vendors, this was just the first one I pulled up.

      You’re looking at a month or so wait for delivery at the most if you order now.

      Yesterday they still had first batch available so maybe other vendors still do too.

      I don’t think the pi5 will suffer the same availability issues the pi4 has

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    I’ve been eyeing an Orange Pi 5+ for my RPi4 upgrade — think I may stick with that route, but glad to see RPi putting out another model.

    My experience with RPis over the years was that the multimedia was way better supported than alternatives, but for self hosting that’s not really relevant for me (headless, and don’t really care about transcoding).

    • @Wolf@lemm.ee
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      I ordered an OrangePi 3 recently for pihole purposes and it has been great, it’s also probably overkill for this use but hey it was actually in stock and not terribly expensive.

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      Power is USB-C, but the ports aren’t because most PC accessories are still USB-A

    • @antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I’m running Emby with 4k content from an Odroid HC-2. If you have a 4k TV it should support the H.265 codec without transcoding so the resources for sending videos is low.

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        That’s my current setup. But would rather separate things off and keep the PC for gaming.

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    Never got over social-media-a**hole-gate.

    Out of curiosity is there an equivalent SBC to this new 5 model out there?