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It’s insane to me that Stalin and Mao are seen as “less bad” than Hitler

Both Stalin and Mao have equal or millions more deaths under their leadership.

At least 45 million people died as a result of Mao’s Great Leap Forward. That’s greatly dwarfing the 6-10 million Hitler genocided.

Not that it matters in this scenario, but I’d rather die in a few minutes in a gas chamber than starve for 30 days.

jfc dude, you know the Nazis also starved plenty of people to death right? Look up how Soviet POWs were treated, not to mention the conditions in the concentration camps.

(Emphasis original. Source.)

If you want to understand the enduring popularity of Joseph Stalin and Máo Zédōng, you have to find out if their administrations brought about any benefits to the general public. It’s no good to just keep focussing on one side when the positive and mixed receptions baffle you.

Human Rights in the Soviet Union and Was Mao Really a Monster? are merely a few resources that you can consult on the subject; they discuss phenomena such as increased life expectancies, improved education, increased healthcare access, more worker’s rights, more democracy, increased gender equity, better technology, increased grain production, and more.

‘Aha,’ you say, ‘but what if you said that about Adolf Schicklgruber?’

Nice try. While you can find examples of his régime benefitting somebody, almost all of the benefits were for the white upper classes (petty bourgeois goyim included).

Yes, his régime offered a few modest benefits to the general public, such as more employment (thanks to total war) and the German Reich’s first national highway network, and acknowledging these phenomena is important to understanding why so many lower-class white gentiles put up with him for as long as they did, but the good very clearly does not outweigh the awfulness here, especially considering that the Fascists ultimately lead their countries to ruin. Can the same really be said about Joseph Stalin and Máo Zédōng?

There is no good reason to believe that the Máo administration massacred tens of millions of innocent people, let alone willingly. Likewise for the Stalin administration. Obviously they must have caused an unknown amount of collateral damage when suppressing suspected counterrevolutionaries, but most anticommunists want everybody to believe that they massacred scores of millions of peaceful innocents simply because they had nothing better to do. That is quite different from annihilating millions of Jews, Slavs, Roma, and Sinti to steal their belongings and make room for Germanic settlers.

Lastly, if you haven’t seen it already, read about the fascist abuse of the Soviet famine of 1932–1933. I know that I’ve already included too many hyperlinks in this reply—I don’t expect anybody to check out every last one of them—but at least inspect that one, specifically the part wherein I explain why it is so irksome to equate a Soviet famine with the Shoah.

  • OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    Lastly, if you haven’t seen it already, read about the fascist abuse of the Soviet famine of 1932–1933.

    It’s come to the point where if I tell people about this, they think I’m some kind of conspiracy looney, that sees fascist plots everywhere. Goebbels was correct. Repeat something enough times and it’ll become the truth.

    Edit: The post you link to is great, but there should be an addition made here that Nazi press, as well as their affiliates in the rest of the West (especially in the US) had propagated the myth that the USSR created a man-made famine in Ukraine. since 1934. I think the FinnishBolshevik made an excellent video essay about this topic. They not only wrote fake testimonies of people who “escaped”, they also created fake journalist personas that were supposingly travelling through the USSR at the time and reporting on deaths by famine, executions and mass rapes. They used pictures taken during the Russian Civil War and other events, such as the Armenian Genocide to present as evidence. Most of what the Holodomor is shaped around today is based on these fabrications.

    • sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml
      5·
      2 days ago

      My abusive victim of communism parents are practicing the very act that the anti-Communist propaganda attributed to Communism. Like the anti-Soviet slander in the fictional Red Winter Academy of the Blue Archive mobile gacha game, my parents have the bad habits to frame obedient subordinates for rebellion and scold them harshly when the actual source of the alleged disobedience is the confusion from my parents’ frequent miscommunication and the contradicting rules that they established. I can believe that the criticism towards the USSR were projections from the Russian civil war that the Russian Czar started and war crimes of other regimes.