• thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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          7 hours ago

          you know nothing of loss if that is your baseline

          edit to clarify: if this is your take of the image above, you live a privileged life

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            7 hours ago

            That’s not my take on the image above, that’s my response to OP’s comment. But feel free to take that out of context if it helps you sleep at night

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            Did you literally just use “there are fates worse than death” as some kind of comeback to someone saying that not being able afford necessities leads to “losing” (death), as a way to argue that a society that allows this should be improved?

            What are you saying? That people not being able to feed and/or house themselves is fine, because there are worse kinds of “loss”?

            What the fuck is point of “one-upmanship” around the baseline of suffering? And how is “people not dying” not a pretty good place to start when it comes to what society should try to achieve?

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              8 hours ago

              you took my sentence and turned it into a novel

              good job, almost like chatgpt

              having been penny less and homeless with my family and surviving because it’s what my family does, has always done.

              I have heard stories of life from my cousins who were born in Pine Ridge SD (look it up)

              they are poor and hungry but I have explained my baseline of losing and being poor. What is your baseline?

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                What? What the hell do you even mean by “baseline”?

                Again, what are you saying? You replied adversarially to someone who was making the point that society should be improved so as to not allow things like people starving to death, or becoming homeless. Are you agreeing with them or trying to shut them down?

                Are you saying society barely doing anything to help people in such situations is fine, because you survived it? Because that is what it seems like, and my reply is in response to such an utterly insane take.

                Society should prevent death and suffering as much as the available resources allow. Who the fuck cares where you draw the line for “good enough”?

                If we can do better, then we should.

        • zeca@lemmy.eco.br
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          neither vague nor a definition

          average is the sum of a list of values divided by the size of the list.

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            I was under the impression mean and average were used interchangeably, but I’m not a native speaker.

            What I meant was mean salary indeed. But median would probably be more adequate.

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            No. If you’re going to be pedantic, at least be right.

            Average

            noun

            1. a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number.

            The term average, inherently refers to at least three different ways to calculate the central value in a data set. What you’re talking about is mean, but it can also mean mode, or median, and there are other, even, more complicated calculations than those depending on your context.

            So yes, average, is an inherently vague and hard to define term.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average

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              Idk, generally people mean the mean by average and the median by median, but I get your point. (But I think the term average salary can be ambiguous for other reasons, not disagreeing there.)

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                Average salary (that is, the mean) isn’t that good of a metric even if you account for region, industry and so on, because just one outlier can easily skew your entire statistics. Median is much more useful in that regard.

                Source: me, someone who writes tools for processing and gathering large amounts of confidential employee data, including salaries of wide range of companies across multiple countries.

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            9 hours ago

            Well, if you look at the average salary across the whole world, an overwhelming majority of people doesn’t make enough money to survive, so there’s that

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          For what of the list?

          It also depends on the definition of each, but I mean in a basic sense.