Hopefully your time here opens your eyes to a more realistic understanding of what is going on as right now you seriously are holding on to a ton if really flawed ideas
It’s worrying to me that you think Lemmy has a real grasp of what’s going on. This entire site and the majority of its users are so far off the left deep end that they haven’t been able to see a moderate thought in years.
I’m sure many of my opinions are flawed to you as I am sure many of your opinions are flawed to me.
The difference is I am willing to discuss your opinions without labeling you instantly, downvoting you and then blocking you. You guys seem to be very eager to label me any number of things, downvote immediately (and go downvote all my other comments elsewhere like weirdos) and then either block me or ban me.
I see most of you as well intentioned people. Humans. We might have a different outlook on things but you are still a person. Most of you guys see me as evil and think I deserve to die. It’s easier to dismiss people after you demonize them.
I know I’m not perfect. I certainly never claimed to be. I just think it’s a very bad idea to immediately dehumanize anyone I disagree with.
Im not the majority of users but what you can find here are some people who are educated in political philosophy/economics and have government experience and some of us do know what we are talking about.
Im not talking about your opinions. You are holding some views that are at odds with objective facts.
While many might insult you I have not. I suspect we are both adults and I treat others as they treat me. You have not attacked me so I will not respond in kind.
The one thing that you should understand is many of us here are not straight so if you support the Trump administration in any way you are supporting making me less equal to you. That is going to understandably be hard for most to get over as how do you treat someone who voted to have people like myself lose equal rights? How should people view the guy who supports fascist candidates and their criminal actions?
Lucky for you I do not support Trump or the right. I was a lifelong Democrat until I switched to independent in 2020. I didn’t vote for Kamala or Trump in 2024 though so many people around here have basically lumped me in as a Trump supporter because would not “vote blue no matter who”. I live in California so my protest third party vote did exactly what I wanted. My state still went blue, but the deathgrip the Democrats have held in California is clearly slipping and they need to see that.
My stance on the whole gay rights thing is my stance on pretty much everything in a similar vein. I do not care what consenting adults do with other consenting adults and I think the government should have absolutely zero sway over any of that. Marry who you love. Fuck whoever you want. I do not care.
Same goes for abortion. I am staunchly pro choice. I don’t agree with pretty much any of the leftist talking points around their pro-choice stances, but I believe the only three people who should have any say on terminating a pregnancy are the two people that caused the pregnancy and whatever doctor they choose to see about it. Nobody else should have a single iota of say over what happens.
I’m an open book. Ask me anything and I’ll answer truthfully.
You take a lot of positions that are identical to the “reasonable conservative” who turns out to be either sea-lioning troll ir a closet fascist. Looking through your posts I don’t think that’s the case with you but if you were familiar with these spaces you might understand the alarms you are setting off.
Not all of Lemmy is hostile but there is a portion whose philosophical education seems to be dependent on youtube/forums and is lacking a lot of the core of political philosophy one gets through academia.
Yeah I get it. Looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck n all that. I am a llama I swear.
I would say only a handful have here been outright hostile towards me. The majority just downvote and leave. Which is fine. I don’t care about the fake Internet points but it definitely doesn’t help my impression that many people around here are incredibly quick to judge and they make a lot of assumptions about me. Or they hear one opinion that goes against theirs and they automatically assume I am the polar opposite to them on every issue. Which just often isn’t the case at all I have a lot of left leaning positions, but it’s seems as every day goes by the left are less and less excepting of anyone that doesn’t agree with them across the board on everything. It’s legitimately concerning to see how little it takes for some of them to turn on each other. Like one position that’s a few degrees off and you are completely dead to them. The enemy.
For example there is this chick on my Facebook that I pretty much only pay attention to because she is so far left it’s entertaining to watch her spiral post about the most insane things, but I saw her turn on one of her best friends because her best friend wouldn’t date a trans guy. They literally agreed on every other political front as far as I could tell, but because her friend said she wouldn’t date a trans person it was over almost immediately. Something like 13 years of friendship gone over one political difference in one afternoon. I watched her leave this huge ranting comment and then unfriend and block her friend. She’s 35. Just insane.
Are you sure you aren’t a transphobe? The statements on this screenshot suggest you might be or you have poor logic on this issue (trans people have no greater advantage than women who are naturally stronger and taller as well who you wouldn’t be arguing should be banned).
I wouldn’t consider myself a transphobe, but I’m sure you will say I am. I have no problems with trans adults doing their own thing.
I do take issue with the competitive athlete situation. I am not even gonna bother attempting that conversation around here because it is abundantly clear that you guys believe you are both morally and scientifically correct across the board on that topic. I’m not gonna waste my energy even attempting that debate.
I also don’t believe kids should be allowed to make permanent and life altering decisions like that. We won’t let them do drugs, vote, drive, get tattoos, get piercings, see R rated movies, serve in the military, work, skip school and many other things but sudden they are mature enough to make permanent decisions about their bodies and lives? I know that will also likely make you label me as a transphobe, but frankly I don’t care. Kids should never be making those types of permanent choices for themselves when their brains aren’t fully developed.
I lost a cousin to the trans movement. She was gay, lonely and depressed. The trans community welcomed her with open arms. She eventually came out as a guy. She got top surgery and started hormone treatments, but a few years later she realized it was a mistake and she wanted to detransition. Those same people that had welcomed her with open arms all turned on her and shunned her. She got even more depressed due to losing all her friends and she eventually killed herself a few years ago. Hung herself in her closet with an extension cable. In her note she wrote about how she had been pressured by the community. She had been encouraged by the doctor. She hated that her femininity had been taken from her while she was not of sound mind. She felt taken advantage of by the movement, her old friends and the doctors that cut her body and gave her drugs.
Her mom just killed herself last year because of her daughter killing herself a few years ago. Didn’t leave a note but she had been writing about wanting to see her daughter again in her diary. I didn’t read the diary myself but my mom read through her sister’s diary after we finally cleared out her apartment and storage container. That was a really hard day for my mom and she’s still not over having lost her niece and sister.
I genuinely do not have any hatred or fear or anything else that people often assume about me in this context. I just believe that it’s not something children should be participating in at all and they never should have been allowed in women’s competitive spaces to begin with.
I said I was an open book and I stand by what I believe in. You can believe that makes me a bigoted hateful person if you want. I know what kind of person I am.
You have a victim mentality, why? You keep making statements about how you think people will respond, why when you aren’t psychic?
Have you thought about whether your views are actually driven by discomfort/disdain rather than actual experience with trans people IRL?
One of my babysitters was 6’8” and naturally stronger than most men. Should she have been forced to play on the men’s basketball team because of that advantage? A lot if the so called advantages a transwoman naturally would have she had (she was a professional athlete as an adult).
Im sorry for your cousin but Im not sure why you think it was the trans community that killed her rather than her being a victim if her own mental illnesses. The fact that you are blaming them might be something you want to talk to someone about because it seems like you are carrying onto anger.
You did say you were an open book and that’s why Im asking this because when I said I didn’t think you were a troll looking to JAQ off or sealion I meant it. This is the kind of thing that raises those questions.
Please talk to someone if you can about your cousin. You seem to still be hurting over her death.
There are a LOT of trolls who have come here this week so it’s a matter of bad timing and overall the community here is less polite.
Leftists biggest enemies are other leftists. That’s because their views are fairly different IRL whereas Western right wingers all more or less fall into support for some version of modern fascism so there’s greater agreement. Leftists cannot agree how free people should be whereas the modern rightwing agrees that people should have fewer rights in general. That creates purity tests that make actual progress very difficult. The Marxists would tell you this is intentional and the results of monied interests holding down the working class and IMO that sounds right.
That lady sounds like she has issues. Hopefully she gets help.
Hopefully your time here opens your eyes to a more realistic understanding of what is going on as right now you seriously are holding on to a ton if really flawed ideas
It’s worrying to me that you think Lemmy has a real grasp of what’s going on. This entire site and the majority of its users are so far off the left deep end that they haven’t been able to see a moderate thought in years.
I’m sure many of my opinions are flawed to you as I am sure many of your opinions are flawed to me.
The difference is I am willing to discuss your opinions without labeling you instantly, downvoting you and then blocking you. You guys seem to be very eager to label me any number of things, downvote immediately (and go downvote all my other comments elsewhere like weirdos) and then either block me or ban me.
I see most of you as well intentioned people. Humans. We might have a different outlook on things but you are still a person. Most of you guys see me as evil and think I deserve to die. It’s easier to dismiss people after you demonize them.
I know I’m not perfect. I certainly never claimed to be. I just think it’s a very bad idea to immediately dehumanize anyone I disagree with.
Im not the majority of users but what you can find here are some people who are educated in political philosophy/economics and have government experience and some of us do know what we are talking about.
Im not talking about your opinions. You are holding some views that are at odds with objective facts.
While many might insult you I have not. I suspect we are both adults and I treat others as they treat me. You have not attacked me so I will not respond in kind.
The one thing that you should understand is many of us here are not straight so if you support the Trump administration in any way you are supporting making me less equal to you. That is going to understandably be hard for most to get over as how do you treat someone who voted to have people like myself lose equal rights? How should people view the guy who supports fascist candidates and their criminal actions?
Lucky for you I do not support Trump or the right. I was a lifelong Democrat until I switched to independent in 2020. I didn’t vote for Kamala or Trump in 2024 though so many people around here have basically lumped me in as a Trump supporter because would not “vote blue no matter who”. I live in California so my protest third party vote did exactly what I wanted. My state still went blue, but the deathgrip the Democrats have held in California is clearly slipping and they need to see that.
My stance on the whole gay rights thing is my stance on pretty much everything in a similar vein. I do not care what consenting adults do with other consenting adults and I think the government should have absolutely zero sway over any of that. Marry who you love. Fuck whoever you want. I do not care.
Same goes for abortion. I am staunchly pro choice. I don’t agree with pretty much any of the leftist talking points around their pro-choice stances, but I believe the only three people who should have any say on terminating a pregnancy are the two people that caused the pregnancy and whatever doctor they choose to see about it. Nobody else should have a single iota of say over what happens.
I’m an open book. Ask me anything and I’ll answer truthfully.
You take a lot of positions that are identical to the “reasonable conservative” who turns out to be either sea-lioning troll ir a closet fascist. Looking through your posts I don’t think that’s the case with you but if you were familiar with these spaces you might understand the alarms you are setting off.
Not all of Lemmy is hostile but there is a portion whose philosophical education seems to be dependent on youtube/forums and is lacking a lot of the core of political philosophy one gets through academia.
Yeah I get it. Looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck n all that. I am a llama I swear.
I would say only a handful have here been outright hostile towards me. The majority just downvote and leave. Which is fine. I don’t care about the fake Internet points but it definitely doesn’t help my impression that many people around here are incredibly quick to judge and they make a lot of assumptions about me. Or they hear one opinion that goes against theirs and they automatically assume I am the polar opposite to them on every issue. Which just often isn’t the case at all I have a lot of left leaning positions, but it’s seems as every day goes by the left are less and less excepting of anyone that doesn’t agree with them across the board on everything. It’s legitimately concerning to see how little it takes for some of them to turn on each other. Like one position that’s a few degrees off and you are completely dead to them. The enemy.
For example there is this chick on my Facebook that I pretty much only pay attention to because she is so far left it’s entertaining to watch her spiral post about the most insane things, but I saw her turn on one of her best friends because her best friend wouldn’t date a trans guy. They literally agreed on every other political front as far as I could tell, but because her friend said she wouldn’t date a trans person it was over almost immediately. Something like 13 years of friendship gone over one political difference in one afternoon. I watched her leave this huge ranting comment and then unfriend and block her friend. She’s 35. Just insane.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37235684
Are you sure you aren’t a transphobe? The statements on this screenshot suggest you might be or you have poor logic on this issue (trans people have no greater advantage than women who are naturally stronger and taller as well who you wouldn’t be arguing should be banned).
I wouldn’t consider myself a transphobe, but I’m sure you will say I am. I have no problems with trans adults doing their own thing.
I do take issue with the competitive athlete situation. I am not even gonna bother attempting that conversation around here because it is abundantly clear that you guys believe you are both morally and scientifically correct across the board on that topic. I’m not gonna waste my energy even attempting that debate.
I also don’t believe kids should be allowed to make permanent and life altering decisions like that. We won’t let them do drugs, vote, drive, get tattoos, get piercings, see R rated movies, serve in the military, work, skip school and many other things but sudden they are mature enough to make permanent decisions about their bodies and lives? I know that will also likely make you label me as a transphobe, but frankly I don’t care. Kids should never be making those types of permanent choices for themselves when their brains aren’t fully developed.
I lost a cousin to the trans movement. She was gay, lonely and depressed. The trans community welcomed her with open arms. She eventually came out as a guy. She got top surgery and started hormone treatments, but a few years later she realized it was a mistake and she wanted to detransition. Those same people that had welcomed her with open arms all turned on her and shunned her. She got even more depressed due to losing all her friends and she eventually killed herself a few years ago. Hung herself in her closet with an extension cable. In her note she wrote about how she had been pressured by the community. She had been encouraged by the doctor. She hated that her femininity had been taken from her while she was not of sound mind. She felt taken advantage of by the movement, her old friends and the doctors that cut her body and gave her drugs.
Her mom just killed herself last year because of her daughter killing herself a few years ago. Didn’t leave a note but she had been writing about wanting to see her daughter again in her diary. I didn’t read the diary myself but my mom read through her sister’s diary after we finally cleared out her apartment and storage container. That was a really hard day for my mom and she’s still not over having lost her niece and sister.
I genuinely do not have any hatred or fear or anything else that people often assume about me in this context. I just believe that it’s not something children should be participating in at all and they never should have been allowed in women’s competitive spaces to begin with.
I said I was an open book and I stand by what I believe in. You can believe that makes me a bigoted hateful person if you want. I know what kind of person I am.
You have a victim mentality, why? You keep making statements about how you think people will respond, why when you aren’t psychic?
Have you thought about whether your views are actually driven by discomfort/disdain rather than actual experience with trans people IRL?
One of my babysitters was 6’8” and naturally stronger than most men. Should she have been forced to play on the men’s basketball team because of that advantage? A lot if the so called advantages a transwoman naturally would have she had (she was a professional athlete as an adult).
Im sorry for your cousin but Im not sure why you think it was the trans community that killed her rather than her being a victim if her own mental illnesses. The fact that you are blaming them might be something you want to talk to someone about because it seems like you are carrying onto anger.
You did say you were an open book and that’s why Im asking this because when I said I didn’t think you were a troll looking to JAQ off or sealion I meant it. This is the kind of thing that raises those questions.
Please talk to someone if you can about your cousin. You seem to still be hurting over her death.
There are a LOT of trolls who have come here this week so it’s a matter of bad timing and overall the community here is less polite.
Leftists biggest enemies are other leftists. That’s because their views are fairly different IRL whereas Western right wingers all more or less fall into support for some version of modern fascism so there’s greater agreement. Leftists cannot agree how free people should be whereas the modern rightwing agrees that people should have fewer rights in general. That creates purity tests that make actual progress very difficult. The Marxists would tell you this is intentional and the results of monied interests holding down the working class and IMO that sounds right.
That lady sounds like she has issues. Hopefully she gets help.