I’d probably work towards getting out of the room tbh
shoot himself in the foot and then the face?
Perhaps the Marxist and the anarchist should have voted when the liberal was asking who should be given the gun.
The perma stun proceeds at pace
A Marxist is stuck in a room with a liberal, a fascist, and an anarchist. The Marxist has one gun and two bullets. What does the Marxist do? Shoot the liberal and the anarchist.
(Based off actual historical events.)
If anyone disagrees:
Kronstadt
Spanish Civil War
Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact
The War in Ukraine
Etc.
The War in Ukraine
I’m confused.
Surely giving the gun to the fascist is a better decision. They’ll just shoot themselves in the foot… Right?
They eventually do. Fascism encourages corruption and incompetence, social division and the fragmentation of non-governmental movements, local dissidents and autonomies. Mussolini was so incompetent that not only was Italy eventually invaded by the Allies and lost its sovereignty to the German Reich, but Benito himself was imprisoned, despite his escape he didn’t make it to Switzerland and was hanged by Communist partisans. Hitler, on the other hand, also encouraged corruption and division within his own structures to prevent people from allying against him or creating opposition. Hitler himself was an incompetent idiot who interfered in the work of his generals. To the end, Adolf believed he could win the war, and when he realised the shit he had created, he shot himself. Fascists aren’t smart or competent enough, they often rely heavily on people who can do things and who are bribed by the fascists to work with them. Hitler often used Göring’s upper class position and connections with prominent aristocrats to get his ideas through, as Hitler himself was just a peasant born in a village with little education and was even homeless for a time. Hitler relied heavily on people more competent than him in important positions to get what he wanted, because he could do shit on his own.
A leftist is stuck in a room with another leftist and a fascist.
The leftist has one gun and two bullets, and they must be used.
What does the leftist do?
Shoot the other leftist twice.
… then claim the other leftist making an edgy joke at the age of 14 is a proof they were the real fascist.
Makes it look like a suicide
I mean it says the bullets must be used. You could just shoot the wall
I use my two bullets to shoot the concept of this political thought experimentp. Let me out now puzzle master, we had a deal you can’t keep
Based off of current goings-on, this is factual. Constant internal battles about who’s the true leftist while ignoring the real enemy
The only ones ignoring the real enemy are the liberals, actually helping them to fight the leftists.
tHe LiBz!!
Nope
Damn that was fast! USA is not yet full fascist that liberals are already rewriting history!
How are liberals rewriting history if i may ask?
By pretending that liberals didn’t push the fascists to power. And instead blaming the left, as always. The only enemy of liberals are the leftists. It always has been, and it’ll always be apparently.
Where do you vote, incidentally? Besides Lemmy.
Not the US, clearly.
This is a myopic analysis of why the fascists are in power. The left as a whole is responsible for pushing the fascists to power because of their inability to settle on a common agenda. Some leftists are more concerned with social justice, some with the worries of the working class and some with capitalism entirely.
This blaming of one particular ideological group for why the right were able to usurp power is part of the problem. Looking for who to blame instead of looking for a solution that all leftists can agree on.
Note: When i refer to the left, I’m talking about liberals, progressives, social democrats and the far left ideologies.
Is it a US liberal, or a “rest of the world” liberal (which typically means the opposite)?
The lib was both the Marxist and the anarchist
Of course they started with 6 bullets but the liberal and the fascist liked to pass the gun around and take pot shots at the marxist every so often so the marxist couldn’t ever influence or overpower them. This is just the moment the liberal realized there were only two bullets left.
I died laughing in class😂
PoliSci 401?
Marx 315
Fuck that shit answer. I’d shoot myself twice.
Are you sure? Bullets move very quickly and are quite hard. Might hurt.
If the Marxist is Russian, I’m pretty confident I’d be able to shoot myself twice in the head in that room.
Nah, the fascist and marxist work together to kill everyone else
That would never happen in a million years
Ironic
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My political positions are somewhere on the left outskirts of Social Democracy, so I’ve no love for liberals. That said, when I look at the US, it was not the liberals that just gave a fascist not only a gun but an entire army.
Social democracy is a liberal doctrine.
Arguing about words is stupid.
Oh so it’s fine when Musk says that nazis were leftists?
But I’m not surprised a liberal don’t care about words or meaning if I’m being honest. They’re usually first into repurposing words for propaganda.
When is it do you believe the Marxists and Anarchists were in power? When do you believe they held the gun to be able to give it away?
Punch up, not down.
To put it in another reference frame. When a video game fails who’s fault is it? The millions of consumers? Or the corpo overlords? When democrats fail, is it the fault of millions of voters? Or the fault of corpo overlords? When something fails it is always the responsibility of those in power to affect the most change. Except, when it comes to politics, then we forget that it’s those with power that hold responsiblity.
I hate predatory micro transactions and day 1 dlc. I don’t blame the people that boycotted them for the prevelence of mtx? I blame the people that demand they be sold first, then I blame the people that sell them, then I blame the people that bought them. It’s not the fault of the people that didn’t buy them. Except in politics for some reason.
Sorry, I just got recommended a “games are shit now corpos took over, it’s the leftist’s fault games are bad”. The misattribution of blame from ‘capital interests’ to ‘leftists’ is so pervasive even the “I’m left of center” crowd are doing it. I didn’t engage there but still need the catharsis
“Do you know why people don’t like liberals? Because they lose. If liberals are so fucking smart, how come they lose so god damn always?” - Will MacAvoy, Newsroom
It was a weird thing to say at the time since liberals (meaning Democrats in their use) have had plenty of presidencies and even weirder to say now that they just had a presidency. People must be absolutely seething at Marxist and anarchists by that metric.
Imagine having 4 years to prepare
With all the state apparatus behind them announcing day and night that Trump was “literally the worst human bean ever”
Basically all the universities and all the highly educated population by their side
With massive approval from their voter base
With huge sums of money for propaganda in the private media.
With all the considerably large powers of the current executive
Able to pass laws
Able to influence worldwide political movements to bash their opposition at any time through grants
Able to start or stop wars worldwide should the need arise
And they still lost to Trump LMAO 🤣
Democrats lost the 2024 election in the 2020 election. Biden was a moderate that solved nothing, making poor white people angrier.
The only ways to make poor white people less angry will make billionaires angry.
Reminds me of a joke on a Bright Eyes song.
“There’s a Communist and an Anarchist in a car who’s driving? The cop.”
Oooh. What song? The only thing I have in my list from Bright Eyes is At The Very Bottom of Everything.
I have no idea. I just remember it in the intro of a song. Sorry to tease you lol.
It’s not a joke if it’s true
It’s not true, though. The Marxists, safely behind a wall, convinced the undecideds to give the gun to the Fascist.
Marxists in America are a rounding error. This is the first time I’ve seen someone spend too much time on Lemmy.
Will the liberals ever grow up and take responsibility for they doing?
No they didn’t, what a boring take divorced from reality.
If liberals ever critically analyzed reality they’d be marxists.
That’s not true, the critical analysis of the enlightenment overthrew the dominance of the church and suborned it to private property. There are several good liberal analysts and historians, in many cases Marxists depend on the analysis done by liberals. Liberalism is a scientific mindset.
But like Marx says in Theses on Feuerbach, as well as a lot of other places, the problem with enlightenment rationalism is it is too objective, like it turns everything, all relationships, all of nature, politics, history, and turns them into objects which have inherent qualities. As such there is a preference over “real” things that can be directly experienced. But as we know, capitalism delivers many false appearances which is where liberals get it wrong but Marxists, who see “things” as relationships created by human beings, can scientifically see much further and deeper than liberals. History appears to the liberal as an assortment of things, whereas to the Marxists we view history as relationships.
Dialectical materialism is a development on, and breaking with, the empirical, objective, enlightenment materialism that came before it. But the two share a common root, if not branch.
But I agree that 90% of liberal commentators are completely intellectually dishonest defenders of private property, and entrenched power; guys like Bret Stephens and Matty Ynglesias. Just completely dishonest grifters playing sophist games with history and events to justify class rule. Many academics like this as well, but I think in reality its more of a mixed bag.
And then blame the Party for not providing more attractive choices.
Our choices were Fascism or Corporatism. Why wouldn’t we blame the parties?
I blame the Democratic party as much as anybody else for not being progressive enough, but nobody can blame a party for their own decision not to vote.
Are you one of the people who consider voting third party to be tantamount to not voting?
I think he’s referring to people who didn’t vote because “both sides are bad”
Nah, those are the far-left authoritarians AKA tankies
You don’t have to be authoritarian to think Dems shit the bed.
I mean
Consequentially saying the dems are shit resulted in authoritarianism
So yeah
But what that user was saying is that 90% of the posts on Lemmy about Dems shitting beds are made by Tankies who unapologetically support Trump and Putin.
How many centuries of power would the Democrat need to do what they’re elected for?
How long have you been leading a large organization?
Well, longer than that.
Consequentially saying the dems are shit resulted in authoritarianism
More like, the dems being shit resulted in authoritarianism. Republicans fight hard to implement fascism, democrats fight hard to keep the status quo, even as it grows more fascist.
