Americans are joining the Chinese social media app en masse to protest an imminent TikTok ban.

  • American users have flocked to Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu in defiance of security warnings.
  • Chinese and American users have engaged in surprisingly friendly conversations about each other’s lives.
  • The influx of American users could burden Xiaohongshu’s censorship mechanism, experts say.
  • surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    You don’t lift 800+ million people out of poverty by concentrating all of the profits among a small few. And China has increasingly been prosecuting their wealthy.

    Which is what they really don’t want us learning to do.

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      3 hours ago

      You do it by exploiting the billions outside your borders from countries even more poor like mine where they sell their garbage low quality products that cant be repaired or recycled, from shitty earphones to bikes that start breaking down in a year, taking advantage of poor people who cant afford to buy anything of better quality. China isnt better than us when it comes to exploitation and inequality.

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          Hold up. You think the Chinese are the ones deciding to manufacture low quality products, and not the capitalists who are ordering them that way?

          Chinese brands owned by Chinese capitalists operating with consent from the chinese state.

          spreading their wealth to those in need

          Using planned obsolescence and taking advantage of poor consumer and environmental protection laws to sell garbage to people trapped in a cycle of poverty isn’t exploitation? Also China ‘invested’ billions here too and we didnt get any hospitals. We got china flooding our markets with its shitty goods and chinese ‘businessmen’ running scam centers.

          They value mutually beneficial relationships

          they do have a mutually beneficial relationship with our dictators.

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            16 minutes ago

            I love that capitalist attacking communists always end up accidentally attacking capitalism. Classic.

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              China is a capitalist shithole but for some reason its biggest defenders are always self proclaimed western communists.

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                What exactly do you think “capitalist” means? Because it sounds like you think any participation in markets is capitalism.

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              China is a capitalist country with aspects of socialism. it’s not really communist anymore.

              No one here is shitting on communists, were shitting on you for a thinking the Chinese are any different than us.

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            What do you think “capitalist” means?

            I don’t think you know, because by definition there cannot be “alot.” That’s the whole point of capitalism- to concentrate the means of production into the hands of a very few.

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      Capitalists use the same exact argument for why outsourcing labor to the poorest countries is actually a good thing. For real, I’ve argued so many right wingers saying “searching for the cheapest labor actually helps the worlds economy because you’re lifting those poor people of _____ out of poverty! It doesn’t matter that it’s only pennies/day, because to them, that’s a lot of money!”

      Pretty goddamn gross behavior.

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        Outsourcing is extracting wealth from another nation. How can you possibly compare that to lifting ones own citizens out of poverty?

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          I wasn’t making a 1:1 comparison. I was saying that “but look how many people have been lifted out of poverty!” argument is a capitalist argument, because it completely ignores the reality of the situation. Have people been lifted out of poverty by outsourcing? Of course. But that doesn’t negate the core problem.

          As the other person mentioned, outsourcing manufacturing TO china is largely responsible for the manufacturing boon there. And then rich Chinese capitalists (though they use the cover of not being called capitalists) became rich middlemen between “western” businesses and the cheap Chinese labor. So outsourcing has absolutely contributed to it. You and the American capitalists are looking at the same thing, one is crediting American executive innovation, the other is crediting the CCP.