do evil games expect evil prizes, thank you Rainer Forst

edit: this is a pedagogical post, not a philosophical one. i actually fully agree with the paradox of tolerance and its conclusion! i just find that it doesn’t work as well as an educational tool for introducing people to the concept. sorry for any confusion :)

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    Just be tolerant with the tolerants while intolerant with the intolerants, like a prisioner dilema strategy

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        i agree with what it says. i just don’t think it’s good as an educational tool for introducing people to the concept.

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          I’m not sure what concept you’re trying to introduce to people, but if they don’t understand the paradox of tolerance then you aren’t explaining it very well because it’s extremely easy to understand.

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            tell that to the 9373626 internet arguments i’ve seen misunderstanding it and saying “its a paradox there is no solution” lol

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      yup! it’s quite simple and i wish the internet wasn’t so primed to cite the paradox posing a problem rather than saying the solution

      i see people get confused by the paradox all the time, because they are used to the concept of the logical kind of paradox which has no solution.

      but the concept of the social contract is intuitive. easy peasy.

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        i really wish this was taught with emphasis at schools, so many people think hostility is inherently the best strategy when almost universally the best thing for everyone is to just cooperate.

        even in nature where one would be lead to expect extreme violence and selfishness to be the best strategy, we see that most animals most of the time just… get along… You even have predators and prey giving each other side eye at watering holes because everyone needs to drink and thus the optimal strategy is for water in dry areas to generally be a neutral zone.

        Evolution tends to favour cooperation because it’s just obviously more efficient for two creatures to share resources rather than spend energy fighting over it. Why wrestle someone for an apple when you could instead spend the energy lifting them on your shoulders so they can reach the apples on a tree?