Why do you believe in it, do you approve it in theory or also in practice? I think a lot of people approve of anarchism in theory but rejects the possibility of it to be put in practice unless we live in an utopia… which I don’t think we do, unfortunately. Maybe techno-anarchism would be more practical? Technology is such badly regulated and ordinary people are punished harsher than corporate so I really think techno-anarchism deserves a lot more attention (not saying anarchism itself doesn’t) I see a lot of people here are more knowledgeable than me so don’t take my word so seriously, maybe I shouldn’t be expressing my idiot thoughts on it, or maybe just embrace it and ask regardless of any shame I might get.

I’m not trying to be mean to anyone, just genuinely wanted to discuss with whoever is willing to chip in on the topic.

  • glowinfly@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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    9 hours ago

    Interesting points, very nice to get them from someone’s different perspective, thanks.

    ‘Idealists’ like myself catch a lot of flak over this exact issue. To me, it’s largely a matter of principle, so I think we should do it anyway. I feel strongly that it isn’t our responsibility to make sure every base is covered before making revolutionary change.

    I believe that hierarchy is bad, so we should get rid of it. Yes, that then makes us a target for new oppressors, but we’re only not a target now because we already have oppressors

    Let’s say it was done then, how would it avoid being exploitable by those oppressors?

    • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 hours ago

      I’d imagine the same and only way we could get there in the first place- mutual aid and violence

      Edit: I’ve been enjoying this thread, so thanks for that! Been a long time since I’ve gotten this deep into discussing these things, and I like it

      • glowinfly@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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        9 hours ago

        So it’d have to be a big revolution in that case or a network of small groups from nearby gathering to a big revolution? Uhm… I guess with the current mass surveillance and intelligence sharing between agencies would likely stop such thing, unless people were to start using Mesh Networks like I2P considering it’d not be compromised, which if any dev involved on such projects living a country that does it like UK/Australia/NZ/USA would be approached by autorities, not a conspiracy, it happens often and the last time it happened and was publicly shared was with one of the devs of Session (Private E2EE Instant Mess!aging) who then fled to Switzerland. The only chance of intelligence agencies sitting on information about such thing happening and not giving a flying shit would be if it was from within a politically isolated country/extremist oppressive country unless it is capilist then I guess it is what it is. It’d involve so much organized planning which then… some hierarchy will born even if a decentralized one?

        • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          9 hours ago

          I think the most important factor when it comes to that issue is free association and, like you said, decentralization. Ideally we would see coordination rather than hierarchy; no one has to be in charge- there are simply roles that get filled. There are even guides online

          It’s my understanding that the US military is as capable as they are on the battlefield largely due to the autonomy each individual unit is granted.

          This is where things start to get out of my wheelhouse though, but it seems to me that if enough people want this kind of change, we could make it happen by enough individuals simply pitching in