• madthumbs@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    This was in the US where they drive on the right making a right turn not ‘across traffic’. The picture at the article further shows the positions.

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      10 days ago

      Okay, let me explain it to you: if there are two lanes going in the same direction, you are in the left one, and you turn right, you are turning across traffic (across the right lane going in the same direction as you). That’s what happened here. The fact that there was space to the right of the ambulance for the cyclist to be in means there were effectively two lanes.

      (And don’t try to claim there was only one lane: you conceded that point already when you claimed the cyclist was “illegally passing on the right.” Even an illegal pass doesn’t entitle the vehicle in the left lane to make a right turn across the other vehicle’s path! In order for this collision to be the cyclist’s fault, both vehicles would have had to be in the same lane to begin with, which means there wouldn’t be room for them to be side-by-side and the bike would have hit the back of the ambulance, not be struck by it from the side.)

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        10 days ago

        The picture in the article clearly shows there’s only a right and left lane. There is no room for turning lanes. There’s also no space for a vehicle. Space for a bike doesn’t make it a lane.

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          What part of “you already conceded that point” did you not understand?

          But hey, you want to claim there was only one lane now? Fine. In that case, the cyclist was the vehicle lawfully occupying it and the ambulance must have swung wide to the left for some reason, out of the lane, and then back into it. Either way, it crossed the path of and collided with a vehicle in that lane. You are not entitled to deny this point.

          1. Cyclists are traffic.
          2. The ambulance was making a right turn.
          3. The ambulance hit the cyclist from the side.
          4. Therefore, the ambulance was turning across traffic, because no traffic means no cyclist to hit. QED.