• leekleak@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Dunno man, it is possible to accept they make good games while still condemning their corporate bs…

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      Yeah, games like Mario Odyssey, Mario Kart, Luigi’s Mansion, etc. are fun as hell and very polished. I can’t think of a single first-party Nintendo game that’s released riddled with bugs in recent memory, whereas the rest of the industry can’t say the same, excepting Sony’s first-party games.

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        I can’t think of a single first-party Nintendo game that’s released riddled with bugs in recent memory

        Literally Pokémon. SwSh, SV and BDSP are all a bug-ridden mess. You will probably find more bugs playing SV for an hour than in all gen 3-6 games together.

        Although yeah, it’s a (huge) anomaly and the rest of the first-party games are extremely polished. It just sucks to be a Pokémon fan in the 2020s.

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          I don’t think Pokemon is first-party since that IP and the dev studios fall under The Pokemon Company, whereas games like Mario and Zelda are developed by studios within Nintendo itself. I could be wrong.

          Edit: I just looked it up, and yep, Nintendo only owns 33% of The Pokemon Company.

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            1 month ago

            If they ain’t first party, they’re certainly close enough that you couldn’t tell the difference.

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              1 month ago

              A completely different (sub)company and dev team make those games. Nintendo just owns part of it.

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      1 month ago

      They make some good games. They also sling out a bunch of crap and repeatedly rerelease games at full price.

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      Basically my stance. Do I like all the anti-competitive crap they pull? Absolutely not. But they do still make and/or publish most of my favorite franchises. This isn’t like, say, Microsoft or Google who bake their evil directly into their products.

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      But… they don’t. Their games are old the minute they’re released. Sure they have enough bare minimum charm to wow the masses, but when you truly take a skeptical and honest eye to them compared to many other games, you realize how lazy they are with the copy/paste approach most of the time, inability to add basic common niceties of modern gaming, and generally lacking worlds that feel unfinished.

      If it weren’t for the IP name recognition, most of their games would be panned as meh.

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        I maintain a stance that the only reason they’re still around is because of brand recognition. Literally the only reason I could think of anyone liking their slop.

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      It’s possible to acknowledge that yes but no they don’t make good games, just half-assed rehashed entries in the same 4 tired series they’ve been pumping games out of for decades

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        Hard disagree. I really enjoy a lot of Nintendo’s games, and will be buying Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom right around release. Some favorites:

        • Smash Brothers
        • Mario Kart
        • Zelda - didn’t like BotW and didn’t get TotK, but I loved the Switch ports of Skyward Sword and Link’s Awakening
        • Kirby
        • Mario Party
        • Super Mario 3D World
        • Xenoblade Chronicles

        My kids like Pokemon and my SO like Ring Fit, but I think that series is pretty boring. And here are some I haven’t played, but probably will:

        • Astral Chain
        • Switch Sports
        • Luigi’s Mansion
        • Paper Mario
        • Metroid
        • Pikmin

        That said, I very much don’t like Nintendo as a company, especially its opposition to emulation. But I do like their first party titles, and they’re very polished at launch, unlike many other big studios.