• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    Do you think? Whether conservative or religious, a lot of it comes down to sexualizing every aspect of a woman’s body, arguing that simply existing as a woman is too much for men to handle, and since men can’t be trusted to control themselves, it falls on the woman to hide her body from the men.

    We’re literally a hop skip and a jump to fucking burqas in Christianity, yet it’s far from just the religious conservatives who take part in this (image screamingly relevant).

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      2 months ago

      I think without the literal centuries of religious oppression a lot of these problems wouldn’t exist in the 1st place.

      Imagine a world where clothing is optional, where a man could kiss another man without any fear, where we weren’t scolded CONSTANTLY for natural feelings, natural habits, natural desires …

      Sure predation would still exist, after all we’re just animals, but I don’t believe that we would have the problems at the same magnitudes that we do today.

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          2 months ago

          Well overwhelmingly men were and still are in control of some of the largest oppression machines religions in the world.

          So even though I uNdErStaNd your reply, you’re still correct.

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            2 months ago

            No, it’s actually wrong and I was sarcastic. Just because a lot of the world is geared behind a patriarchy does not mean it’s suddenly OK to scapegoat the complexities of basic sexual attraction on to one gender.

            “It’s more than the religious that take part in this” does NOT magically mean the social norms were not established by conservative fuckwits who were almost certainly heavily religious in order to protect themselves and keep their position in a patriarchy.

            Conservative religions absolutely deserve most of the blame, regardless of which gender sat at the top.

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      2 months ago

      Where do you think the general fetishization comes from? Cultures that demonize the existence of breasts and shapely asses.

      What cultures demonize breasts? Conservative religions.

      In cultures that do not promote shame over basic sexual attraction, nudity is no big deal. You’re trying to put the cart before the horse, which is just… really, really stupid logic.