Signal is aware of the blocks.

“Signal is being blocked in Venezuela and Russia. The app is a popular choice for encrypted messaging and people trying to avoid government censorship, and the blocks appear to be part of a crackdown on internal dissent in both countries…”

  • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
    11·
    3 个月前

    Lol do you know how to migrate a community off one platform to another?

    “Foreign agents” could install a VPN, probably already have to send data. 0 impact whatsoever for those “agents”. Even for casual privacy enthusiasts judge be easy, depending on what’s already blocked. Average people on the other hand…

    Regular people will find other ways to communicate, as they always have. They have lots of options, as you’ve pointed out.

    Also pointed out how those present more challenges. Why you think WhatsApp and face time are popular, anybody can use them. I’m still wondering what alternative you propose. It seems there’s nothing that suits privacy and making Maduro happy.

    signal is secure. Its security is backed by it’s western intelligence financing.

    It’s security is backed by the fact it can be audited. Of course governments want PQC encryption. You think other countries don’t want or invest on it? The only difference here is that is pubic, free and can be checked for backdoors.

    Its clear that Venezuela is facing external pressure to dismantle their democracy, and are taking actions to disrupt those efforts.

    When preserving “democracy” is the excuse to not be Democratic, something is wrong.

    I’m still waiting to know what do you think is a good alternative. You already complained that signal is secure against all parties, and I’m wondering of there’s even a truly private messaging platform that is open and approved by Venezuela, Russia, China… Please enlighten me. There has to be at least one… Right?

    • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      3 个月前

      When preserving “democracy” is the excuse to not be Democratic, something is wrong.

      Ah there it is. Its only Democracy if it comes from the democracy region of the west. Got it. Venezuela has one of the most robust voting systems in the world. Requires voter finger prints, signatures, national ID cards, and has paper ballot verifications. Meanwhile elections in America can be decided by some elite cobal system established in the 18th century by rich property owners for the explicit intention of disregarding the will of its people to favor the property class.

      • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
        22·
        3 个月前

        I see you have issues with focus, so I’ll just ask again. What messaging system is private and has the approval of Venezuela, Russia, China…? Or is privacy against the state bad?

        • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          5·
          3 个月前

          You are the one who lacks focus. This chain stared from this comment:

          blocks appear to be part of a crackdown on internal dissent in both countries.

          Or… you know… at least for Venezuela, the USA constantly fucking around with their elections and politics and local assets using Signal or something. Maybe, I dunno?

          Do nation states have the right to defend themselves from foreign interference in their elections? What actions should a nation state take to ensure the security of its elections? What actions should a nation state take to combat misinformation spreading about their elections?

          Based on your previous comments it sounds like you believe a nation should do nothing.

          • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
            12·
            3 个月前

            Again, do Venezuelans deserve to be able to communicate privately?

            Every state has the right to defend themselves, I’m a big supporter of Ukraine. But this is not that. You asked me of I know what apps the opposition use. Do you have proof that there are foreign agents and they use signal?

            From a technical standpoint, this is useless. Only harms the population. If you believe this is wrong, please explain why this can’t be bypassed with a VPN or proxy. I’m even forfeiting the proof that it’s actively being used for “enemies of the state”. And to west l what extend should Venezuela go? Lockdown from outside? Banning all encryption?

            I have replied to all or nearly all your questions. If you don’t intend to answer mine, then it’s a waste of time.

            • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              6·
              3 个月前

              I’m a big supporter of Ukraine. But this is not that.

              I see your colors. Ukraine, historically, undemocratic due to western interference. Made the Communist Party illegal and disbanded it. Very good democracy there.

              They are very much the same, except Venezuela is better at defending itself from said western interference.

              • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
                12·
                3 个月前

                Again, no answers. Why do I try to speak with a Tankie? Just another “useful” idiot that never left his US state.

                At least your messages are here to show what you really think about privacy.