• Optional@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Not to worry! Li’l Kim’s Bestest Buddy and Honorary Number One Chief Saluter will be ready to help NK help Russia destroy Ukraine and NATO.

    All you MAGA service “losers” and “suckers” got quite the cognitive dissonance jam rockin’ huh.

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          4 months ago

          To be fair, the orange convicted felon and rapist found some good speed on that trip

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            If I were President, and I were meeting with an enemy face to face, and they saluted me, I’d salute them back.

            I have not served in any military and am not aware of the official meaning of a salute.

            But I have had enemies and if I were meeting with one of my enemies and they saluted me, I would salute them.

            This is just based on my gut feel of the gesture’s meaning from watching movies. My gut feel is it’s a combination of:

            • This handshake indicates we’re both listening intently and ready to talk
            • I see you. We are the same despite our ranks, because we’ve both put ourselves here, and because we’re both equally susceptible to bullets.

            I could be wrong, and I’m asking for correction if I am, but based on that I’d salute an enemy soldier if he was standing there ready to meet with me.

            Thing is though, with a politician it’s different. I don’t know if Trump’s ever been shot at. Probably not. So the “hello, spiritual brother” thing that can apply to any other soldier even enemy is less there with a politician.

            I don’t know. Just saying it seems natural to me to salute an enemy. Like “this sucks, maybe we can end it today” feeling to it for me. Framing the war as a problem they’re facing together.

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      Biden broke all ties with North Korea after Trump. Reverting to the old demand to denuclearize before for any negotiations and imposing more sanctions.

      As we have learned from Ukraine. no sane country should ever give up their nukes because they become a prime target for invasion. If Ukraine still had nukes Russia would never have invaded.

      Biden has also imposed sanctions on NK which were undone by Trump

      Now I’m not a an NK fan but I’m not sure why people think pushing NK away would make them more friendly. Unlike the past where American sanctions spelled doom and America could bend any country to their will, China and Russia are now picking up the countries America pushes away.

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        China and Russia are now picking up the countries America pushes away.

        Pretty sure North Korea has been allied with China and Russia for way longer than the US has been “pushing them away”.

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          Well yes because America had been pushing North Korea away.

          Trump tried to lay contact with NK. He might not have had pure motives for it. He usually doesn’t. But the action itself is not the problem.

          Biden hitting NK with the “new number who dis” right after becoming president certainly doesn’t make them trust us more. And thus they have been pushed further into the arms of Russia.

          The classic American imperialists refuse to accept that by sanctioning a country into oblivion they will now just join China and Russia’s side. They have alternative options.

          Most Americans don’t even know why North Korea is so hostile. We bombed them into oblivion during the Korean war.

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            Well yes because America had been pushing North Korea away.

            The classic American imperialists refuse to accept that by sanctioning a country into oblivion they will now just join China and Russia’s side.

            Most Americans don’t even know why North Korea is so hostile. We bombed them into oblivion during the Korean war.

            What the fuck is this revisionist history?

            North Korea invaded South Korea in 1950, after the South refused Northern rule. The UN stepped in (90% American forces) pushing the North Koreans nearly to China’s borders, at which point China entered the war, and resulting in the 38th parallel armistice border we have today.

            North Korea wasn’t pushed into China’s welcoming arms due to American anti-nuclear proliferation sanctions of the last twenty years, and “being bombed into oblivion” is often the result of picking on countries with bigger allies than you, just ask Germany and Japan.

            China has propped up the Kim dictatorship dynasty for the last 70 years, feeding their starving masses while the Kims focus the country’s resources on military spending, including nuclear development to substantiate their annual saber rattling. Allowing China to maintain a buffer state, that’s kept the West at bay since 1951.

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        NK & SK were making historical progress towards reunification until Kim and Trump met. Look at the pics from the summit and the timeline of inter Korean relations and it’s clear as day. He’s the reason relations went downhill.