I had In The House - In A Heartbeat playing in my head while making this meme

sorry for the pixelation in the corner, I used a shitty website which put a watermark there

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    5 months ago

    I am VERY glad that’s not how we frame it here.

    I mean, hey, yeah, being a place where people like to retire the issue does come up in conversation, but health care is a constitutional right, it is provided universally and even undocumented migrants are allowed to access most of the system. Makes sense to me. You get taxed a proportional amount of what you make, everybody gets the support they need. I have several family members that would likely not be alive right now without that principle and that’s how I wanted to be treated when I lived abroad, so I have no problem extending the same privilege to others.

    Yay for socialdemocracy, I guess.

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      5 months ago

      You’re free to go to those places if you can support yourself or be supported by someone else who would be paying into the system.

      Too many people abuse the system, and they would need to increase everyone else’s taxes if they just let everyone in. Reality is, no one wants double the taxes and people leaching off the system, even if they would lie and say it publicly.

      It’s not framing anything, that’s just reality, you’re free to bury your head in the sand and think elsewise, but all it does it prove how foolish and naive you are.

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        I’m not “burying my head in the sand”, I live in a country where we have a constitution that recognizes a universal right to health care and I vote for governments that maintain that, even for immigrants.

        Our health care is fine, our economy is doing fine and I am absolutely fine with the taxes I pay, publicly and privately. I’ve told my accountant as much, and in the country I migrated to I paid less taxes, so I even gave up some opportunities for tax exemptions because they seemed unfair, given the privilege I had access to and the kindness I was granted as a guest.

        You being a bad person doesn’t mean everybody else is or that not being a dick is “naive”, friend. Some of us just choose not to live that way with full understanding of the situation. I get why you wouldn’t want to acknowledge it if that’s not you because woof, that sure makes you sound… not great. But, you know, you can’t bury your head in the sand and think elsewise, that’d just prove how foolish and cynical you are.

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          It’s the same thing in those countries, that’s why they restrict who comes in so not a million people come in and be burdens. Where are you referring to? I bet there’s restrictions and you just don’t know about them.

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            5 months ago

            I already replied to you on this. I know about them. I’ve been a hiring manager for migrants, a migrant and also I have google and I did check before responding. And no, I’m not telling you the countries I’ve lived in, I don’t give a crap about your belief or acceptance. I’m telling you how it is, you can go look up examples yourself, take my word for it or keep making a fool of yourself online, I genuinely don’t care which one you choose, man.

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              I’m telling you I’ve done that, there is multiple people telling you they’ve never heard of this either.

              What’s wrong with naming two countries if you’re some of yourself…?

              Doesn’t even need to be the two you’ve been, why is this question so hard for you to answer if you believe in this so much?

              Even professionals make mistakes… why do you think that supports your claims? Answer the question and people can answer this for you.

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                  5 months ago

                  Panama requires a minimum income. That’s the disability protection……

                  See how naive you ? Can’t even comprehend this simple restriction most countries have.