esp if you’re one of the devout ones who think they’ve been really good

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    This is like saying that Atheists shouldn’t fear death because they know it will just be blank nothingness that they won’t perceive.

    Fear of death doesn’t come from the logical part of our brains.

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      ???

      Totally not the same. Religious people believe the afterlife is better than real life and the OP was curious why they aren’t speed running to get to it.

      A blank nothingness is not an upgrade for most people.

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        It is the same because a blank nothingness isn’t bad so atheists have no reason to fear death.

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            That’s a matter of opinion.

            No, it’s a pretty objective description of the absence of being.

            The fact you cease to exist may very well be considered scary, even by atheists.

            Yes, because fear of death does not come from the logical part of your brain, not because they have anything logical to fear.

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          A blank nothingness might not technically be bad but there are plenty of ways that transitioning to that nothingness could be absolutely terrible. There are also many people living very enjoyable lives that want to keep the party going so to speak.

          I for one am an atheist and madly in love with my wife. You bet your ass I’m gonna try and squeeze every last drop of goodness out of my life.

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              Never insinuated that it couldn’t be applied to theists. Not sure why you’re seemingly hostile about this.

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                Given that the whole context of this thread is why theists are scared of dying, you kind of did insinuate that with your story.

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          It’s relatively worse. If you have nothing you won’t be around to complain about it. But having a good life is totally better than simply not existing.

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            It’s not relatively worse, it’s just objectively neutral. It cannot be relatively worse because it is not perceived or felt to be compared. It is just objectively neutral.

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                It is not zero or null, those are both conditions you perceive, it is the complete lack of perception and being. You cannot have lost anything if you no longer exist to perceive any loss.

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                  Yeah that’s what null means dawg

                  Look up that photo of zero vs null in the context of toilet paper

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      This is a stupid take. Of course they should fear death. It means the loss of everything they loved, even though they won’t experience said loss.

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          There is. Also, if you want to mourn or fear that loss, you have to do it beforehand. Thus making the reaction to fear death completely rational for atheists.