• z00s@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Education is, unironically, the best tool to combat inequality, but the effect only kicks in after the students have finished school.

      In the meantime, uniforms cut down on bullying. What else do you want them to do? They don’t have a magic wand, nor do they have magic money to hand out to struggling parents.

      Edit: unironically some of the dumbest takes I’ve ever read on the internet in this thread.

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        In the meantime, uniforms cut down on bullying.

        Do they? I don’t think so, people are just gonna get bullied with different “reasons”, it’s not really about the clothes after all.

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          I never saw someone got bullied for their clothes in my environment.

          But kids got bullied for wearing glasses, let’s hope they ban those then. Also, better to not let kids with weird accents in school. Wouldn’t want to provoke the bullies.

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            So you got rid of one reason to bully, so bullies shifted to other stuff. How does this help now? Are there some studies, that prove school uniforms lead to quantitative less bullying? If yes, I would be interested in that.

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              Maybe we should seriously address the issues of the individual bullies. Instead of just banning them from school for a week. And teach the teachers how to do that. Maybe we should start creating a public school system that’s able to take care of the kids.

              I am sure there are quite a lot of teachers with good ideas, maybe the lawmakers should listen to them. Although mandatory uniforms likely might turn out as being cheaper, especially when the parents have to pay for them equally, whether they’re rich or poor.

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                8 months ago

                Well you sound like you know more than all those other people, why don’t you let them know about your expertise?

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        9 months ago

        Maybe instead of throwing money for uniforms it could be used to hire teachers, repair the building, or buy furnitures? Just a couple of ideas you know…

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          Do the whole pay for the uniforms? Here in Australia parents do, and it’s ridiculously expensive.

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            Ridiculously expensive? I’m in Australia too, how much do you think they cost?

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              Primary is affordable cause you just go into bigw

              Secondary, the blazer alone is like $400 and there’s only one store where you can get it. Eventually he’ll lose it and we’ll have a big discussion about money.

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                  Mate, welcome to port Melbourne college. I may be off with the exact number on the blazer but a basic set of uniform with 3 shirts, pants an single blazer was close to 1k . Nitpick as much as you want but I have the receipts and they are hurtful.

                  Add to that a laptop, because port Melbourne primary used iPad but nooo, not enough for college.

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          You’re missing the point. None of those things would help poor kids not appear poor and get bullied.

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      9 months ago

      Especially today or are they going to provide uniform phones, social media pictures,… too?

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    9 months ago

    Apart from all the other points made here, I always wonder why uniforms have to look like there has been no development in clothing/fashion for the last 100+ years? Why do they have to look like they are extras on a Harry Potter filmset?

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    I was on board until I heard it was the far right, those guys and uniforms have a bad history.

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      9 months ago

      Allow us to tackle inequality by forcing poor families to buy expensive uniforms from our selected supplier.

      Please ignore all our financial links with said supplier.

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            I mean… that’s not a right. Are you very young perhaps? It can seem difficult as a kid to deal with but as an adult it’s easier to see the benefits. There’s a lot of studies on the improvements made by lessening the differences between the kids.