• PunnyName@lemmy.world
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    But he’s going to win via the Spoiler Effect if people keep this third party shit up.

    A vote against Biden is a vote for Fuckface 45.

    Until we get rid of First Past the Post voting, at least.

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      the meme is about a primary election in which Democrats are running against Democrats. no one partaking in this movement is planning to vote 3rd party. you are making uninformed statements, shadow boxing with a situation that doesn’t exist.

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        And you honestly don’t believe people aren’t going to keep this mentality up in November?

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          the biden administration is currently complicit in genocide. maybe if it wants to survive it should consider not being complicit in genocide. 🐛

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          Double negative there with the don’t aren’t, but to answer your question we believe that the people voting in DNC Primaries are going to vote DNC in the general. Anybody who doesn’t probably isn’t informed enough to be a part of the noncommitted movement to begin with.

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            You seem like a logical person. I’d like to circle back to the Uncommitted thesis that Biden is in support of genocide, if you will. Since this is the crux of the whole voting campaign.

            If you would allow me to ask 4 questions about this whole Uncommitted campaign:

            1. What action(s) is Joe Biden doing that is a DIRECT support of genocide?

            2. What action(s) is Joe Biden actively NOT doing that is a direct support of genocide?

            3. What action(s) should Joe Biden BEGIN to do to that does not support genocide?

            4. What action(s) should Joe Biden STOP doing right now to avoid supporting genocide?

            I ask these 4 questions, because right now, I’m not seeing much actual definition of actions that define the support of genocide, nor the quelling of genocidal support.

            Should he be sending troops? …talking? …cyber warfare? …sanctions? …carpet bombing? …ghosting? …written threats? …dehumanization? …assassination?
            These are all examples of actions. There are more things, of course. But right now, I’m not seeing any clarification - no specificity - just absolutist rhetoric from the Uncommitted.
            And I’d like to know more.

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              1. Just one of very many examples, on December 29th, POTUS Biden circuimvented Congress by having his Secretary of Defence approve weapons sales to Israel without a vote in the senate, mainly artillery munitions and long range shells. For the Second Time that Month. Weapons used to murder innocents. Biden has used UN Veto Power multiple times now to shield Israel from consequences.

              2. Send in Troops, mainly to distribute aid from the shoreline using the Navy’s amphibious vehicles, and indirectly protect innocents as the Israelis are less likely to shell the hand that feeds them. Demand the removal of genocidal authoritarian Netanyahu for continued peaceful cooperation from the USA.

              3. Immediate cutoff of all aid to Israel. Full Stop. Removal of the aid from the border bill, end to all Secretary of Defense dealings with them, and Censure of Israel in front of the UN. If Israel is smart they will realize they’re surrounded by hornets nest and just lost their veil, so they’ll clean up their act or suffer the same atrocities they submit others to.

              4. Stop Vetoing UN Resolutions against Israel. Stop saying Israel has a right to “defend itself” from innocent women and children.

              He should be sending in troops, too, honestly. The ICJ’s Genocide Ruling justifies invasion to stop the atrocity without any consequence. Israel has failed so spectacularly that they need to be demilitarized and restructured much like Japan once was. The USA created this mess, it’s only right that they foot the bill to fix it for the next 40 years. Do I expect that to happen? Fuck no, but it’s what would be the most right.

              And why should I be the one to educate your ignorant ass on the solutions? You don’t think there are articles and scholars and pundits talking about these issues at length that instead you need to come bother me with your stupid ass questions? Fuck off.

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                Thank you.

                So, the truncated version is for the US to go to war again.

                You were educating me on things YOU (uncommitted campaign, et al) wanted. I can’t know without asking, and my Google Fu wasn’t providing specifics. No, I wasn’t being a Sea Lion.

                As for scholars and the like, it seems like perhaps this whole event is in “good” hands, since they literally know the ins and outs better than the average citizen.