Hi everyone,

Currently looking at either a Pixel 8 or a S23 as a replacement for my Zenfone 8 that is slowly becoming a hindrence due to (primarily) the battery. I would replace it, but as it costs a lot to do that here and I have needs for a non-compromised water protection DIY feels like a dangerous option.

So S23 vs Pixel 8, what would you guys recommend assuming I can get either for the same price?

I like the S23 hardware a bit better on paper, but as Pixel phones generally are very flashable my anti-Google sentiments might (ironically) push me there.

I would get a fairphone 5 for the hot-swappable battery etc if they weren’t so expensive for what you get, and as Im buying second hand reuse is better for the environment anyways.

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        9 months ago

        Is it still that bad huh? I had an A50 before and the bloat was one of the reasons I disliked that phone.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, that is one of the reasons I’m intrigued. Havent looked at it since the Rossman/Daniel Micay thing though, is it still good?

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          9 months ago

          Okay, cool! Several people here seem to recommend it so I will add it to the “scale”

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        9 months ago

        Micay stepped down as lead developer and foundation director. I’m not sure what role he has with the project currently, but it seems like he plans on leaving the project entirely, long term. I haven’t heard of any controversy since then. They’ve been hard at work and actually added support for Android Auto last month.

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        9 months ago

        Daniel is okay. The shit he got from opinion-spreading people like Rossman… doesnt make sense.

        He is still very active, maybe not the official head of the project but will still answer like every Github issue.

        He and many others have very profound Android knowledge and discuss.grapheneos.org and their website is really helpful.

        GrapheneOS is simply a good system. They change so much in minimalist ways that make sense, like sandboxed play or enhanced permission toggles.