More video and eyewitness info on Al Jazeera so far

Also reported on Common Dreams and Middle East Eye.

I haven’t found any reports of any independent investigations yet, hopefully they are underway

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    9 months ago

    No, the war started on Oct. 7th. The war is in response to terrorism on the part of Hamas.

    You’re just pulling a DARVO here.

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      9 months ago

      You can’t just pick a date and ignore decades of history before that because it doesn’t support your case. The latest one could argue this conflict started was 1948, but Zionist terrorists had been operating in Palestine for decades at that point.

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          9 months ago

          It’s not that Jews immigrated to their “homeland”, it’s that they are ethnically cleansing the people who have called that land home for thousands of years. Palestine could have been a modern pluralistic nation that included Jews, but instead zionists chose genocide to try and make a country for only Jewish people. That’s why this conflict is where it is today, Palestinians want some of their land back that was stolen in living memory (as opposed to 2000 years ago), but Israel really wants beachside condos and there are people they consider sub-human in their way.

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            9 months ago

            Are you suggesting that the genocide didn’t start with the Oct. 7 war but has been going on the whole time as part of the return process?

            Yeah, dude, that’s just antisemitism.

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              9 months ago

              The genocide started when settlers began attacking Palestinians towns to expel them from their land to make way for more settlers. Settlers had been there for decades before at that point without committing genocide. It’s the displacing and killing that’s the problem, not the immigration. It’s got nothing to do with the fact that they’re Jewish either, calling it antisemitism is using past atrocities against Jewish people to justify or deflect from the currently ongoing genocide.

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                9 months ago

                Give me a specific date of when you are claiming the genocide started so I know how long the conspiracy you are alleging has been happening.

                I believe you previously stated 1948. Are you suggesting a continuous 80 year genocide?

                Forgive me, but I think your argument works better if you are claiming the genocide began Oct. 8th and is caused by trauma. I think that is what most people on your side are claiming to believe and I think that is much stronger than your position.

                Do you wish to clarify your position?