https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebase

Firebase is a platform developed by Google for creating mobile and web applications. It was originally an independent company founded in 2011. In 2014, Google acquired the platform and it is now their flagship offering for app development. History. Firebase evolved from Envolve, a prior startup founded by James Tamplin and Andrew Lee in 2011.

https://firebase.google.com

Google Cloud + Firebase. Firebase projects are backed by Google Cloud, letting you scale your app to billions of users. Read more Trusted by the largest apps and games. Development teams around the world—including NPR, Halfbrick, Duolingo, and Venmo—use Firebase to ship their apps.

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      Oh, I know what Google Firebase are. Maybe you don’t know what Firebase are?

      “This includes things like analytics, authentication, databases, configuration, file storage, push messaging, and the list goes on. The services are hosted in the cloud, and scale with little to no effort on the part of the developer.” Source: https://medium.com/firebase-developers/what-is-firebase-the-complete-story-abridged-bcc730c5f2c0

      Like I said, it is Google we’re talking about here. Nuff’ said.

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        Pretty cheesy of you to think I do not know what Firebase is. You should know better, then, what Firebase does, and that its implementation and calls are transparent and can be inspected too?

        Criticism goes like Genuine>none>blind

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          Your comment includes no proper answer and no content, only an ad hominem. If you make a claim, the burden of proof is on your side of the argument, not on the responders’.

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          If Signal now are fully E2EE where nothing is logged, not even metadatas, then why do Signal use Firebase?

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            Why do you not inspect the intents and calls made to Firebase, since Signal is open source? If you can prove it, feel free to generate valid criticism instead of taking blindfolded shots.

            This post is not valid criticism of Signal, as much as I have felt spited by Cloudflare use in Signal.

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              I can’t since I am only a web programmer. Instead, I gather information from valid sources and listen to what other people say.

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                So OP did not even mention trackers, yet label post as trackers, and take it as valid source? This is called confirmation bias engagement. :)

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                  OP did mention trackers (look in the title of this post). But that title are wrong. So, so wrong. Firebase are not a tracker. I have only stated the fact that Signal uses Google and asked, “what did you expect?”

                  If I have given any missleading information, I am sorry. I had just woke up when I posted my 2 first replies here. Am more awake now after breakfast ^^

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                    OP did not even mention trackers, yet label post as trackers

                    Please read carefully.

                    Your assumption ties Firebase with Google analytics tracking, which are clearly not the same thing atleast as far as this post is concerned, or the Signal app and how it works. The assumption further entrenches into the territory that Signal is an anonymous app (which it does not claim), and Google Firebase is somehow snooping on messages and metadata, which is untrue (they claim their app is only private and secure, not anonymous).