• Ab_intra@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Don’t let this fool you. Europe has been supporting Ukraine since the start of the war. They also are giving them more now than what US is.

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          10 months ago

          So European arms manufacturing is dead?

          No? Because then your comparison is invalid.

          As for your scenario, all emergency services will instruct you to do CPR untill trained personal arives, so even if you think a person is dead, you should still do it untill you hear from a licensed person telling you to stop after they made the determination.

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            10 months ago

            So European arms manufacturing is dead?

            Yeah, and so is America’s

            America, EU and the rest of the collective west are being outproduced by Russia, Iran and the DPRK

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              I get that we have run very low on munitions, but my point is that we still have factories that are in fact producing munitions, it is not like Bofors and similar companies have stopped existing, they are still producing munitions.

              This means that they are still alive.

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              10 months ago

              How long before Russia, Iran and DPRK topple western hegemony with their massive guns? For real though, I think this statement is a little bullshit if you choose to exclude China from the equation.

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                10 months ago

                There is no proof China has been supplying Russia with war material any more than they’ve been doing to Ukraine

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                  10 months ago

                  True and not something I implied. I just do not think Russia, Iran and DPRK are anything near outscaling western weapons production and research without China. Maybe for some subset of the industry, but not as a whole.

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            The UK already stated they don’t have any munitions to send. The US is literally taking munitions back from allies because it doesn’t have enough to send.

            As for you taking the metaphor so specifically, let’s hope the negotiators tell the EU that it’s over and establish a ceasefire.

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            To continue from your point, do CPR until you become exhausted. CPR is very physically demanding you should be cracking ribs. For anyone interested the order of operations is, call 911, determine if you need to do CPR, call for bystanders to take over chest comprehensions when you get exhausted if possible, then begin CPR for as long as you can maintain it. The most important thing is to call 911, chest comprehensions don’t bring people back from the dead, it gives the patient time for the paramedics to arrive.