• stevehobbes@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    This is so comically wrong I don’t know where to start. SMS was fucked from the get go, especially in the US where it was common to charge by the message for SMS. Seriously. It was $0.25 to send and $0.10 to receive them on a lot of people’s plans.

    The wireless carriers fucked SMS, and will absolutely fuck up RCS - along with all the various providers out there. It’s a dogshit standard that isn’t broadly interoperable still.

    iMessage was a breath of fresh air for people who did use SMS.

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      11 months ago

      It’s so weird to me that in the US you pay to receive messages or calls. Where I live the sender pays, or the caller pays. It doesn’t cost to receive. Plus you normally get unlimited messages anyway, like even a approx US$10 a month plan will have unlimited SMS included and like 200 minutes of outbound calling, plus data.

      If you’re paying for messages received then people can send you unsolicited messages and it costs you money?

      • stevehobbes@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        I think they’re now broadly free on all but the most restrictive plans- but when iMessage came to be they weren’t - and most phones wouldn’t split 160 characters into multiple messages. You were literally limited by that.

        They used to charge extra if you were roaming too. I think T-Mobile was the first to stop and everyone followed.

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      11 months ago

      You’re insanely correct, and it was extra fucked because it wasn’t even MORE DATA being used. It was piggybacking on unused data packets already being sent to towers, hence the character limit. BUT WE CAN NAKE MORE MONEY IF WE CHARGE FOR THAT

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        11 months ago

        23 years ago, text messaging on Cingular was 100% fucking free.

        Some of these people are just making up bullshit off the top of their heads.

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          11 months ago

          Then Cingular was fucking DOPE.

          I sold phones in 2006 and almost all (if not all) of the plans cost money per text. We did not have Cingular though!

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      11 months ago

      You’re totally right but this is the android community…so we’re gonna need you to start sounding like the echoes here or you can leave.

      /s

    • Renohren@lemmy.today
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      11 months ago

      Sms was from a time communications weren’t done over IP, RCS or iMessage use the IP protocol, RCS could be implemented by the telcos but isn’t because , unlike SMS, it can also be implemented by anyone with a server with a connection to the internet but as RCS is an open GSMA telecom standard, it is implemented within all modem chips by phone makers, even Apple has a Qualcomm modem chip with RCS management included. I reckon it needs a few extra features in the basic standard such as E2E encryption, chatbot capabilities, malware and spoofing protection, maybe Google could help there as they have introduced those into their Message app and could disclose their code, but they are obviously trying hard to create a walled garden too… The solution could come from Meta as they seem pretty keen to advance on open communications (Threads interoperability with Mastodon is a demonstration of that policy)

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      11 months ago

      iMessage was a breath of fresh air for people who did use SMS.

      But even before the launch of iMessage it was dumb to communicate mainly over SMS simply because of how shitty it was back then.