• mateomaui@reddthat.com
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    11 months ago

    This will go over great with traditional customers who cannot update to 11 because their computer doesn’t have TPM. (edit: to be clear, meaning they’ll be annoyed AF.)

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        11 months ago

        Doubt it, too many jaded people who would still pay up just to not leave what’s familiar. Maybe 2028.

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      11 months ago

      I am annoyed af. My pc does have TPM but it’s a bitch to set up and I’m not fighting that fight again. And fuck windows 11 on my current computer

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      11 months ago

      Even though the limitation on TPM is completely arbitrary, and anyone sufficiently savvy can bypass it in a few ways.

      But most people are not that, so I guess the Linux crowd will embrace all those computers with open arms.

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        11 months ago

        That’s why I said traditional customers, who, at least for the moment, also aren’t savvy enough for linux.

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        11 months ago

        If people aren’t savvy enough to bypass the TPM requirement, I don’t see them being savvy enough to install a whole new OS on their system.

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      11 months ago

      I’ve TPM and all other sys specs needed for W11 (my laptop is only 2 Years old), but I can’t update (without tricks), because my AMD Graphic card isn’t in the MS list. Well, I have no intention of doing so anyway with a well-tamed W10 that works the way I want. In 2025 I’m going with Linux as sometimes before, being online 99.9% of the time, the OS to do it anyway matters very little to me.

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        11 months ago

        Good grief, I hadn’t heard about this kind of problem yet. Increasing glad my laptop is too old for it and my Windows volume is still on 10.

        edit: though I should add that if it becomes necessary to update to 11, that Tiny11 doesn’t require TPM and has problematic things stripped out, and in a VM it seems to be updating properly without issues.

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          11 months ago

          Well, at least for me, although it works as it should, there is no reason to change. W10 will be supported until 2025, I think even longer, similar to W7, which also survived several years longer than the announced end of support, due to the large number of users. In W10 you can still make changes to improve privacy and retain more sovereignty, this ends with W11 and 12, with these MS is the owner of your PC. When W10 ends, there will be many excellent Linux distros out there, this is clear to me.

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            11 months ago

            Oh I don’t plan to switch either anytime soon, just making it known as a lightweight option that gets around the restrictions. I haven’t used Win11 beyond installing Tiny11 in a VM, so I’m entirely ignorant regarding any pros or cons about practical use of it.

            edit: should add that there’s also a Tiny10, but for me the most recent one is stuck not installing some updates in the VM, still trying to work that out.