• exohuman@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    We had libertarians popular for a while in Michigan. Then they lost popularity. They usually align themselves to the right wing. In practice, they basically tried to block the government from helping the people at all. No school funding. No health care. Private ownership of all the land. No parks, protected lands or sanctuaries. No real environmental protections (so no public protection of the largest freshwater supply in the world, a precious resource), only property owners can sue for pollution, no gun regulations, no helping the poor or any social programs whatsoever, and a stronger state’s rights take on government (so the state can say no to everything too).

    The good parts to me were that they didn’t support drug war policies and they don’t believe in government discrimination against any groups (but the “government” part is important there so I guess that’s not that good).

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    They’ll cause the problems then complain about the problems being the reason they needed to cause the problems

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      1 year ago

      Of course, because “every organization is less effective than individual” :P

      Additionally it’s “literally socialism”

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      They don’t want to admit it but they are just a few steps away from anarchy.

      Soo the, we got problems to big for one person alone to solve. If we let every fucker do whatever he wants we going down fast. We need inteligente population orientated to something good, organizerd trough democracy.

      bUt i wANt mY GuNS AnD My moNEY.

      They say while driving in public rodes with protection from a government that doesn’t let companies poison their air, a gov that replaces the lead pipes, that conducts international policies needed for the survival of any contry…

      Eddit:typos

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        They don’t want to admit it but they are just a few steps away from anarchy.

        Pretty much everyone admits it. Minarchist (pro minimal govt) flag is literally ancap with black changed to blue.

        Soo the, we got problems to big for one person alone to solve. If we let every fucker do whatever he wants we going down fast. We need inteligente population orientated to something good, organizerd trough democracy.

        Free Market is essentially a “continuous democratic process”. If what somebody does benefit people, he gets incentivised with profits. If people see no value in what he’s doing – he gets losses. And if in the process of " doing whatever he wants" he does any harm to others ge gets sued.

        And all of this happens constantly instead of once in a couple of years, without almost any accountability from those who’re in power as it works in republic.

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          I disagree that the free market is democratic because hedge funds and the richest people in our society control all of the “votes” in a free market, even after taxes. This can probably be blamed on capitalism, stock markets, and money-driven lobbying.

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            First of all lobbying and any other intrusion into fair competition is incompatible with free market.

            As for the “rich” — without government enforced monopolies, their wealth is a representation of how much value they provide to society. Which roughly translates into their support by society. A bit like representative democracy, but more decentralized.

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              By that logic, thieves are virtuous and valued by society. In reality, the wealthy are creating value for themselves and their peers, and we operate on a system more like $1 = 1 vote, rather than 1 person = 1 vote. This system is usually called a plutocracy.

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                By that logic, thieves are virtuous and valued by society.

                Thieves are forced to return what they stole, they don’t (usually) accumulate capital

                In reality, the wealthy are creating value for themselves and their peers

                Could you please provide an example? Even something like Apple products (luxuries) are used by people that can’t be called rich. So it’s hard for me to understand how wealthy could create their separate economy

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        I kind of get your post, but you should seriously proof read it. I don’t even know what the last sentence means

  • Takatakatakatakatak@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’m not really a big fan of this facebook meme, because I’d take the solo boat and some basic paddles any day over a large ship full of idiots with no means to propel itself.

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      I don’t get why the activity of mocking Libertarians is so popular on Reddit and Lemmy. It’s a 3rd party that never wins elections, and promotes individual freedom and fiscal responsibility. So what?

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        Because they promote selfishness, and given their way, would benefit few at the expense of many. Humans are inherently stronger as a group than alone. We need to use that strength to do things for the common good, such as providing services such as fire fighters, libraries, and education. Libertarians would prefer to avoid helping anyone but themselves.

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      the libertarian party yes, because they literally took over the us national party

      the actual ideology, no