• the_tab_key@lemmy.world
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    I grew up in one of the “no data” counties in the North East. My neighbor committed suicide 30 years ago or so. There, now there is data.

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    That’s such an oddly specific north to south multi-state swath of No Data that I’d easily believe there was something going on with that particular longitude, even though that’s a completely insane thing to imagine.

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      In a round about way, it probably is geographically related. So few people live there due to the land being pretty useless, but not so useless that the people there are spread out and when county lines were drawn they followed county sizes similar to Midwestern states. More western states drew larger counties but had similar population density averages so the number of people per county are high enough that there are enough suicides that someone may actually be tracking that on an annual basis

      Arbitrarily cherry picking that squished pentagon county in northern Nebraska, there are only 769 people living in the entire county . If just one of them committed suicide that county would be off the charts lethal at 137. So when you take the US average suicide rate per year it could take up to ten years for someone in the county to commit suicide. So there probably isn’t anyone keeping real statistics in that county

      Realistically I think this is a bad map since counties with lower populations get disproportionately amplified suicide rates

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    I went to highschool in Utah, every year we had at least one assembly about suicide prevention. We had more depending on if a suicide happened in one of the counties nearby. Not one for each since that would have taken a while.

    There was a month or two where there were like six pretty rapid fire and one by a student at our school. We’d already had an assembly pretty recently, so they didn’t have another one. It was a very quiet week, but then everything went back to normal, as always.

    Anyway if you’re wondering why it’s that bad in the Great Basin region of the US the answer is Mormonism, and lack of education/resources especially in rural areas.

    The assemblies I mentioned weren’t “this is how you can deal with things” they were “no one in their right mind would do this, suicide and thinking about it is weak and stupid so stop” or they were “god doesn’t want you to die” neither were effective.

    Then again I wouldn’t expect effective solutions from people who are the problem. Not sure any amount of words from men who use “gay” and “queer” as an insult would help queer kids feel like living in that hell was better than death.

    Oh and if anyone is wondering, this was less than a decade ago, not in the very distant past. I think most of the staff in my highschool are still the same, and the majority of the residents in the town certainly haven’t moved, physically or “spiritually.” Honestly, with the trump rhetoric they’ve probably gotten worse.

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      you had assembly? Last year a girl committed and the school literally did jack squat. Nothing on announcements, no meeting, I don’t think they even did a social media post. It was pretty maddening for me but nobody else seemed to care.

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    Why did they make the “no data” color nearly identical to the low value of the range? And yet there are still counties marked grey, which is what they should have picked for missing data.

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        Child Services terrorism against men is likely one of the leading causes. All agents of that terrorist organization are paid by commission. They are incentivised to make life untenable.

        Edit:

        Wow the level of downvotes…

        Current federal guidelines allow states to garnish up to 65 percent of a parent’s pretax income for child support. One study found that among parents with reported annual incomes of $10,000 or less, the median child support order represents 83 percent of their income. … The child support system was set up four decades ago, and Turetsky says it seems stuck there — as if a man with no college can still walk into a factory tomorrow and pull down middle-class wages. In fact, a large majority of child support debt is owed by men who make less than $10,000 a year.

        https://www.npr.org/2015/11/19/456352554/from-deadbeat-to-dead-broke-the-why-behind-unpaid-child-support

        There used to be posts on reddit about the suicide rate being four times as high as the general population. Of course, search engines obfuscate this info because DDG is bowdlerized by the m$ crawler API of primary query and child support reform is anti-republican. Oppressing and killing the poor is the Republican way.

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            It is appropriate to the scale of how much this wrecks lives when people are young and struggling. It is deeply personal to me. The negativity is telling me, “this is not a place for me; that no one cares; that the people I’ve lost do not matter here.” That’s fine. I go do other things. Maybe I’ll forget about it, or maybe the depressing hurt doesn’t go away. It doesn’t really matter now. Down votes mean fuck you, go away as far as I’m concerned. They impact me 100:1 over any positivity or engagement. I’m only here for some kind of social connection due to physical disability and social isolation. I have been getting abused for the last 3 days IRL under complicated circumstances where family is incapable of comprehending my needs and how they impact me. So stuff like this here… fuck it, what do I matter. I will be one of these statistics once my folks die. It is that or homelessness and I’m already falling apart after 10 years of this at just 40yo… I refused to give up. When the terrorists took my license, when they killed my business, I got on a bike and made the best of it. These terrorists are why I’m disabled. I was laid off from a six figure job I got through nepotism just before my daughter was born. I tried so hard to get another job like that, but I hadn’t worked there long enough and the union rep told me to my face, train all you want while you pay dues but I’m never sending you on a real job. I went until I ran out of savings and went back to auto body paint. Two years later, used car sales died for months in the Atlanta area and I had absolutely no work. The initial amount I owed was set for $130k when I was on unemployment. Nothing I tried got that changed for over 6 months. Even after that, the amount was more than I could make and survive on, like not even close. You can’t own a business and deal with child services. If those terrorists see any indication you can pay more, they are incentivised to abuse the man.

            Even after 3 years in a case that disabled me, the lawyers worked with dcss to negotiate a way to pay off everything I owed and close my case. That is what I got for trying to ride a bike to a shit pay job just to have a consistent paycheck, they paid off the criminal extortionists that caused my disability. I have a class A commercial drivers license. It is not strait forward to get that released from the federal and state plus the suspension has to be suppressed as non driving related or I’m uninsurable. The lack of continuous coverage means insurance is unaffordable in the first place. I can not begin to describe my hate for this place and anyone that has anything to do with it.

            To top it off, my fiancé was cheating on me while I was working 7/12’s for nearly 2 months when that union job was trying to see if I would just quit. While I got the job, many didn’t like how I got it even if they liked me to my face. It was the most drama filled petty group I’ve ever worked with, but it was a good paycheck. I’m glad I never married that girl. Once a cheater always a cheater. She also missed her pills and I pulled out so there is that too. She really wanted a kid too.

            DCSS does not have flexibility or reasoning. They are functioning like it is possible for anyone that tries to make six figures with a part time job. If you’re like most people that are barely struggling to live paycheck to paycheck, now you need at least 40% more than that just to break even. If you can’t, fuck you, go be homeless. If you owe back due support, now it is 60%. That is how DCSS works.

            Almost all amber alerts are these thugs enforcing their terrorism and has nothing to do with actual harm to kids. Often it is not in the best interests of the kids, it is set to maximize what one parent must pay because - commissioned agents.

            So yeah. You’re telling me I don’t matter and basically I should have just died. I’m very inclined to acquiesce, so it is best for me to disconnect instead of letting this continue to hurt me personally.

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    Seems to be a multifactoral type of correlation. Poverty, race and population density all playing parts.

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    They usually include drug overdoses as suicide on these statistics, so it makes sense that Nevada and other rural areas are so red.

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    I’m having trouble with the colors. It tornado alley low rate or no data. TBH either of those would seem weird for the area.

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      The darker color in tornado alley is green for “no data”, which is odd, but I assume it’s similar to the darker orange and red around it.

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    Hilarious to see my county is an orange dot in a large swath of green. We’ve got just high enough a population that you REALLY notice there’s nothing to do.