President Joe Biden said on Monday the threat of Russian President Vladimir Putin using tactical nuclear weapons is “real”, days after denouncing Russia’s deployment of such weapons in Belarus. On Saturday, Biden called Putin’s announcement that Russia had deployed its first tactical nuclear weapons to Belarus “absolutely irresponsible”.

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    1 year ago

    If he uses any, the entire west needs to get involved directly. People cannot just throw nukes around because they are failing to win a war of conquest.

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      And what the entire west is going to do about it? Express deep concerns? Deliver 10 more outdated tanks to Ukraine?

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        1 year ago

        Deliver 10 more outdated tanks to Ukraine?

        Russia is fielding T-55 tanks onto battlefields in Ukraine. If that sets the baseline, then nothing the west has sent can be considered “outdated”.

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          Totally irrelevant because:

          • Russians use them mostly as tactical utility vehicles for moving personel around.
          • Tank battles almost never happens in modern warfare
          • Russians still have more T90s than Ukraine has Leopards and T90 is a more advanced and better protected machine
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            You’re fully committed to huffing that copium. Where are the Armata tanks? What is air defence doing? Kyiv in three days, right? :D

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              Are they really losing? Looking at the map it seems like they control 2x territory compared to pre-2022. And they just recently took Bakhmut.

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                Are they really losing?

                They’re fielding T-55 tanks. Your explanation for that (which is suspect) is that they are being used for troop transport.

                Why would a winning army be using tanks first made in 1958 and last made in 1962 as troop transport instead of modern present day BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles or modern BTR-80 vehicles?

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                  The user is straight up a Russian troll. His name is fucking ArtemZ for fucks sakes.

                  Report for disinformation and don’t engage. You can’t argue putins talking points because they’re completely unhinged and not rooted in reality.

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            Russians use them mostly as tactical utility vehicles for moving personel around.

            Tanks aren’t made to transport people and they are abysmally bad at it. They use a ton of fuel and don’t hold anybody but the crew. A passenger could sit on top, but if you are going the 100% unprotected route, there are piles of vehicles out there that are less maintenance and fuel intensive for troop transport. If that is honestly how Russia is using their T-55s, I encourage them to continue.

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              If you are using a tank purely for moving people around then the only crew member is tank commander. Speaking of fuel, it is not like Russia has any shortage of it.

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        Why does it matter if tanks we are sending to Ukraine are 30 years old, when Soviet Union’s tanks are 60 years old?

        New equipment is being sent, but that requires more training and personnel to maintain

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        I think most likely a targeted bombing campaign, carried out by the NATO forces that have been mustered on Russia’s borders to do so, knocking out Russian air bases and disabling ICBM launch sites.

        There’s always the chance that Russia launches nukes at the West in retaliation and the world ends, but that’d rely on enough Russians preferring the end of their own lives, their family’s lives, and the lives of every person on the planet to … Putin not winning his war.