Yeah I’m sure Netanyahu is really impressed with you being upset that he did exactly what he promised to do if he got elected… And apparently not caring about Hamas enabling him to do so at the same time

Do you believe Netanyahu represented Israel when the Oslo Accords were signed?

Do you think Hamas took over the obligation from the PLO to follow the Oslo Accords when they were elected in Gaza?

Sure best thing today (for me) would seem to stop fighting, re-establish pre '67 borders and go from there.

I don’t know what you understand under ‘end apartheid’ (it’s been thrown around rather cheaply lately) but if you mean a one-state-solution where everybody stops thinking along religious lines: I don’t really think that’s realistic in the short term

Why would you say they deserved it? Do you think Israelis would ‘deserve it’?

Hamas opposed the Accords and carried out several deadly bomb attacks against Israeli civilians in the runup to the next election Hamas was not part of the Oslo accords . Netanyahu himself say that he was the one who sabotaged it not Hamas

Before we continue: do you believe Netanyahu was part of the Oslo Accords?

You seem to struggle with the concept that Israel (and Palestine) consists of more than one person or faction and that there are factions that want peace and factions that want war. Hamas made sure the Israeli faction that wanted peace lost power in '96

Your answer gives me a chuckle because I was wondering if I had to type it ‘toddler-proof’ to prevent people making a funny instead of an answer ;-)

Slight dip in Hamas support, but group still most popular

I think you seriously underestimate the Palestinians and what they think of their neighbours

It would be very interesting to see how Palestinians would respond to the same questions.

Of course the mosque attack had the same aim, and needs to be condemned just the same. But despite them, Arafat and the PA decided to continue the path towards peace. Hamas saw them even more as traitors and collaborators because of it (and, I’d like to point out, several posters in this thread still seem to believe this).

Despite it being a shocking event, the assassination of Rabin did not make Israel leave the path. His successor vowed to continue and even had a 30-point lead in the polls at one point.

Without the Hamas’ bombing campaign Netanyahu would have been left shouting from a corner instead of being handed the power to reverse Oslo.

And where exactly do you place Hamas with their bombing campaign that led to Netanyahu, who wanted to end Olso, being elected to replace Peres, who wanted to enact it?

Israel actually dismantled settlements after Oslo. Hamas opposed the Accords and carried out several deadly bomb attacks against Israeli civilians in the runup to the next election. This put Netanyahu in power who ran on an agenda of opposing Oslo as well. Their refusal to a two state solution, and futile hope to defeat Israel through violence and terrorism, squandered every chance for a peaceful solution.

Hamas sabotaged the Oslo Accords by blowing up civilians exactly because they opposed a two state solution. (Succesfully, because this then helped Netanyahu seize power)

You need to understand that both xyzzy and me were talking about future events. I’m sure if you did, you wouldn’t have accused me of lying.

They were stating that Israel was fishing for Hamas to make a mistake so they’d have an excuse to resume full-scale bombing in the future and I replied that it was looking like Hamas was already going to give them one in the future

I would draw a timeline for you but I must admit I don’t know how to attach it here

I’m originally replying to this:

They’re looking for any excuse to resume full-scale bombing, especially now that people have returned to Gaza City.

Nowhere am I saying Hamas lied about any of this or that they breached any agreement.

The current ceasefire is in place to facilitate the hostage exchanges.

The larger ‘peace plan’ sees this ceasefire continuing if Hamas continues to play ball, and ending if they don’t.

I’m not making excuses for Israel

I’m trying to explain to you that this isn’t a sports game where Israel gets ejected if they get two yellow cards