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    The vile Russian Empire, with its Romanov dynasty, super problematic. If Peter is so great, why does he look so wimpy compared to Joe Rogan? Hah, those stupid tankies don’t even realize the Chinese empire has been abolished for over 110 years!

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      Sorry for being snarky… Of course modern China is an empire. Just without overseas military bases. A soft empire, one might say.

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          4 Chinese bases, as compared to 800 or so US bases. And what is the death toll of Chinese military interventions since the second World War? Not sure, but it certainly isn’t racking up to the millions upon millions killed by US foreign intervention. Like the other commenter is saying, don’t support nation states, good on you. But doing bothsidesism and false balances when talking about Empire is absurd. Like calling US empire ‘less problematic’ 🤡

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            China is still in their phase of keeping their interventions within their borders. The “trail of tears phase” so to say

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            Of course modern China is an empire. Just without overseas military bases. A soft empire, one might say.

            4 Chinese bases

            So China does have oversees bases and is therefore in fact not a “soft empire” but a fully fledged empire.

            Don’t know why you bring up the US, we were talking about China. Which is by your definition an empire and should be treated as such.

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              No, foreign bases does not an empire make. If that was the case, watch out for Bangladesh. This dick measuring between nation states is unproductive and serves to legitimize imperialism itself. Rather than comparing oppressions, our focus should be on understanding and opposing the global system that enables imperial powers to divide and exploit working people worldwide.

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          TF you mean ‘assimilated’

          If I lease you a part of my house (AT GUNPOINT NO LESS) for 10 years am I doing an imperial aggression when I move my stuff back in afterwards?

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              I’m strongly of the belief, by reading them in the context provided, that you don’t know what any of those words mean

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                Imperialism - building an empire by exerting control over foreign powers

                de jure - by law

                cassus belli - cause for war

                So conquering other places is okay when the law says you have a good reason to send soldiers marching down their streets?

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                  11 days ago

                  Okay so 2 out of 3 correct.

                  Now I guess the question is with your sanity. What the fuck are you talking about with ‘conquering’ and ‘other places’? It is literally their country. There was no war. There was no invasion.

                  You’re delusional.