The sound of many of them exploding


  • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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    What do you think about Hezbollah reopening the hostilities back in October? Do you believe they could have prevented all this bloodshed if they just kept the border in peace?

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      What do you think about Israel never ceasing hostilities?

      For real, read a book every once in awhile.

      • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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        But Israel did cease hostilities, right untill Hezbollah started them again…

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          No they didn’t. They very specifically never stopped actions in countries they aren’t at war with and notably as the article states THEY WERE PLANTING BOMBS IN CIVILIAN ITEMS again in countries they aren’t at war with.

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            These bomb-planting shenanigans only began after Hezbollah restarted the hostilities

            Also, why do you consider devices used for military communications as civilian items (in all caps no less)

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              This is the second round of bombings with seemingly benign objects.

              They are quite literally bought OTC they are in fact civilian objects, that’s why terrorists use them…

              Seriously, a book… once.

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                These weren’t bought ‘over the counter’, these were bought en masse from the producer and specifically meant for military use

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                  You’re fucking dumb there’s thirty on eBay and more on Amazon, it’s literally an OTC open band civilian tx/tx device. It’s even in their fucking wiki and they released a press release about it. Jfc, just use Google dude.

                  What’s next you think they were targeting people with “military grade beepers?”

                  Legit a book, once ever.

                  Ed: they weren’t purchased by the manufacturer, icon even has to come out prior to the bobbing and say they believe there were counterfeit ones or there and it turns out the isrealis made them.

                  • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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                    You seem very, very focused on this ‘read a book’ thing. Feel free to elaborate how you think that relates

                    OT: they were pagers meant for military use. It seems that the devices that exploded were exclusively in the possession of people working for Hezbollah. Implying that the Mossad put bombs in devices that innocent people could buy on eBay or Amazon is a complete fabrication or, at best, completely delusional

        • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Zios were murdering palestinians at record rates well before they started full genocide 1, 2.

          People inside the imperial core are generally completely ignorant and brainwashed about the reality of zionist genocide.

          • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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            Ah, yes. History started in '22.

            You sound like you’re ready to shoot every ‘zio’ they put in front of you, no questions asked

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              You seem like you forgot how terrifying Hitler was. Now your nation is repeating the same shit

      • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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        It’s whataboutism to say someone shouldn’t have started the fight in the first place?

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          The “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.

          Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.

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            Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?

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              No, I condemn all attacks against civilians. Hard to imagine, I’m sure, for someone who sees only one belligerent’s citizens as human.

              But I am pointing out the ludicrous misrepresentation of history that Hezbollah “started” any aspect of this conflict. Hezbollah was created in response to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO was launching attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon. The PLO was in Lebanon and before that in Jordan because they were driven out of their native homeland and made refugees due to the colonization of Palestine.

              There is no aspect of this conflict that does not tie directly back to the violent disappropriation and explusion of the Palestinian people from their land. The conflict is and has always been about theft of land and homes, which continues unabated through the present day.

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                And do you think Hezbollah restarting the hostilities after almost two decades of de facto ceasefire was helpful for the civilians? Which civilians have gained anything from it? The dead?

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                  And do you think the colonization of Palestine, the establishment of an apartheid regime and the subsequent genocide of Palestinians was helpful?

                  • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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                    History is just a tad bit more complicated than you seem to be aware of, but do you really think Hezbollah (and Hamas) reigniting the conflict made the world better?

                    Which other conflicts would you like to see reignited?

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                Are you living in some Bizarroworld where it’s Israel that broke the ceasefire with Hezbollah back in October?

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                  Are you living in some bizaroworld were wide spread terrorist attacks are ok?

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                    Before they were attacked by Hamas in the south and subsequently Hezbollah in the north? Please elaborate. You can stay in all caps if you want

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                  Y’all wackos always yapping about some irrelevant date and irrelevant event in order to justify colonialism, racism, apartheid, kidnapping, sexual assault, terrorism, genocide, etc.

                  Nobody cares about your hasbara nonsense.

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                    Wow yeah all these ‘events’ and ‘dates’ everyone’s always talking about are just all irrelevant

                    You’ve really opened my eyes

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            Ok, so in your mind, the year is 1982. Israel just invaded Southern Lebanon and is fighting the PLO. Nothing like Israel withdrawing, the entire Lebanese civil war, the '90s, the 2006 war, the events of 2023 has happened. 1982 Hezbollah received some missiles from the future and fired them at some Israelis that haven’t been born yet.

            It is forever 1982, and the killing will never end

            • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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              Amazing fucking goalposts there. From “Well who started it??” to “Who cares who started it, that’s so long ago” in literally one comment.

              Fuck these nazi ass fucking zionists.

              • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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                Do you think the killing is ever going to end if Hezbollah can’t stop unless Israel is dissolved? Don’t you think the world would be better if they stopped attacking eachother?

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                  The killing will end when the state of Israel ends. Israel exists to commit genocide. It was committing genocide long before Hezbollah or Hamas existed. Hezbollah and Hamas exists because Israel is a fascist, genocidal state. The world will be better when it’s gone.

                  • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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                    What do you think of all the other countries that committed and commit what you call genocide? Should they all be attacked? Should the people of the world put perpetual genocides on eachother until one remains?

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      Peace was never part of the plan for colonial genocide. Have you ever seen the zio genocide map? They’re planning on invading every neighboring state, stealing the land, and continuing with genocide.

      Why steal just one state when you can steal the whole region? It’s what god wants his chosen people to do. smh.

      • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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        Wow that’s really interesting!

        Can you share some more info on Israel’s plan to conquer half the Middle East? This sounds very realistic now that you’ve mentioned it