We talked stuff that works you up, how about things that you do to calm down? What techniques, activities, mantras, stims, etc. do you do to keep yourself comfortable and safe? Feel free to share what you’d like - and something kinda cool is that you might end up helping someone else down the line.

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        I think medication helps in some very real ways. But of course, there are always side-effects and you have to approach it with an openness that both parties are coming in pretty blindly and you’ve both got a common goal to get you to where you want to go. So it’s a lot of trial and error, but when you find things that work for you it just kinda - *clicks* and you don’t feel different than who you are but almost kinda…better? That sounds absolutely awful, but by that I mean the things that stood in your way that made it hard for you to do whatever you want to do day to day become a lot easier to achieve without being detrimental in other areas of your life.

        And I was anti-medication for about 650 years. But it’s helped me, quite a bit =)

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          im not anti per se but more last resort type. I was worse though. I have learned to start taking pain medication after a surgery and not wait until it gets bad enough to take (because it can take quite a bit of time to take effect and when the hospital ones wear off it can come on strong and sudden)

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            Yeah, my mom is so anti-medication she has surgeries and just winces through the recovery and it’s absolutely miserable to watch. I once was in so much pain that I went into shock and if an amazing most lovely nurse on the face of this planet (I LOVE YOU SARBJIT!) hadn’t helped me I am not sure what would have happened. I’m not even joking, it was bad. Really bad @_@!!

            I am also taking some stuff right now that hasn’t fixed everything, but I am way more functional right now than I was prior (cause it got bad for a while there too - was stuck in bed for a majority of the year and could barely walk). SO! I am pro-medication but as long as you and your provider can reach a mutual space with it and you feel like it’s helping and not hurting your being =)! Cheers =)!!

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              In total psychotropics in ASD is lesser prescribed, have a lesser effect in autistic population, but not for each patient. From other hand each pharmacologic substance is another substance, and each psychotherapist is another man, finally. If you take a therapy, you take side effects of it. There is calculation. And a harder life is not a better life, that’s just what culture teaches.

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                I mean I’m AuDHD so there’s that. But also not a psychologist but I think I read something about how there’s three categories of mental disorders and that the one both ADHD and Autism lay in are in executive functioning. I think the other two were…personality and mood? And I think those are given more kinda like - mind altering drugs. Cause I don’t really feel any different when I am taking my medication. It just kinda helps clear up my head a bit. I can function (personally) on or off of it if I needed to. But I know individuals who are drastically different on/off drugs. For better or worse. Like people with bipolar who can’t get out of bed because they can’t move an inch or shift to mania and have no filter to what they’d be open to.

                *But pairing medication with therapy always helps. Having someone you feel safe enough to talk with - that’s the stuff. And if they can give you a relatively objective response to your word smoosh, even better!

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                  If you meet the pharmacological criteria, then it’s most likely that you have what’s indicated by your reaction to the medications.

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          In my case pharmacy it’s vital reason. Some people who need medication and have doubts in this, can convince their to take medication Jerzy Vetulani.

          “But it’s helped me, quite a bit =)” Finally you take or not? Help you administration or prohibition?

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            Oh yeah, I take =)! Me with adderall and without very different. It kinda takes all the soup in my brain and puts it in a funnel and I like that about it. Instead of thinking 50 things at once, I just think about one thing - but my channel can still flip by association. So I know for sure it’s not a “cure” but between the two I feel like a Buddhist monk =P!

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        If you developed the noble eightfold path, a meditation could be better than sex, but it cost a lot of time. For Autistic it can be more difficult. From another side part of people may have a talent for meditation.

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          is meditation the main method of cultivating the various right ways. Feels like house before the cart to get to it to improve meditation rather than improve meditation to get to that.

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            U can think inaccuracy, incorrectly. You may be able to draw the bowstring, but still miss the target. In the case of meditation, it sometimes takes 10 years to feel something.

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            I’d like to think we might all have certain pieces of the puzzle but we might not have the big picture view. Likewise I think it’s incredibly healthy to accept things as what they are, but to be honest (and this is a hot take here) I think a lot of westerners overly-idealize Buddhist philosophy. But as a mixed kid, eh! I like it, but I don’t sit in any one camp. People talk about how humble monks are only eating what they are offered. But honestly, it’s a social expectation. In a different space, monks would not thrive because it might not be something so readily being offered and in turn they would experience a level of stressors that push their very beliefs to their core. That’s why there’s a lot of jokes about things like meditating in isolation on anger only to be annoyed when those practices actually get pushed. In theory all individuals regardless of background, personality, stressors - etc should be able to reach enlightenment. But I think in actuality, it takes a certain alignment of the stars and it’s fool-hearty to think otherwise. But that’s just me, and what do I know? I’m a messy human. (I always anecdotally remember that one of the most materialistic people I’ve met in my life was a former Buddhist monk =P!)

            I will say though, that in my travels the happiest people I’ve ever met in my life were a SE Asian Islamic/Buddhist combo. They didn’t have much, but they had each other. And to be honest, it really taught me how to mind my ps & qs when it comes to want vs need and what one truly needs to be happy.

            But at the end of the day, it’s shown over and over again that meditation in some form helps people much like exercise and doing it in any capacity is worthwhile =)!

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              yeah im not much for it as a religion but since I was young I have been obsessed with philosophy including in religion and truth. Currently the four noble truths are about the closest I have come. Take out the rebirth thing but otherwise seems like it. My cuirrent form looks at accpetance a lot which you had right in your second sentence. All the same one of the big acceptances for me is I will likely finish up my time without understanding truth in the purest sense.

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                I totally feel this. See, I don’t think any one religion has the beginning, the middle, and the end. Which you could say about anyone, because how the hell is anyone right about everything 100% of the time. Or have 100% of the coverage of consensus. We try to mimick this with observation and study (basically learning), but we don’t have all the answers. I think for sure right now we’re all in this giant space of walking the unknown. And if we don’t let stuff like this go from time to time it’ll drown our minds.

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                  im moved from any religion not having 100% to pretty much all of them having close enough to 0% to be 0%. The Qanon thing made me reasses how groupthink works.

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                    I get so worried when I think about what isolation, silent suffering, and groupthink does to people. It fucks me up, because I didn’t entirely understand it until I did. Then I realized how vulnerable we all are, and how many sharks are out there looking to get a power-trip at minimum adding a little chaos into the world and trampling on people’s hearts. If addiction is a social disease, I think in the future they’ll have some kinda diagnosis for people suffering from what they do to people like incels. But we’re not making it any better in this world acting like we’ve got the answers - the other side doesn’t and all the people listening to them are fuck-nuts. I think about the guy who killed his mixed kids. It was super sick how he did it, but he was also terribly unwell. And what got him to that point? I wish we created a society built on understanding, instead of ridicule. And I often wonder is it just a part of us? An intrinsic part of us? Cause a hundred years back I was listening to NPR and I remember the guy talking about how he wanted to find more commonality between all people yet he was profoundly affected in realizing that even he himself had this elitist edge of feeling better than others due to his educational standing. It made him question if it was something built in, if people need to feel superior to another group of individuals that they see below them in order to thrive. And it kinda gave me the thought to. I mean I’ll be the first to say “Hey, at least you’re not that asshole!” and point at Trump. And I think you know, feeling sorry for the global elite as a whole is kind of a pointless affair (as in celebrity worship on the whole) but I will say this…

                    I do feel sorry for Trump in some sense. He seems to be stuck in some kinda doddering space that is clearly exacerbated by the circuit he’s being run through in order to pretty much guarantee his failure pending that AMERICANS VOTE (!!!). People are pointing and laughing and saying look at him, he’s fucking up all over the place. What a fuck! But I don’t really think it’s fair to tax a human on that level and then pretend like the playing field is level. But also he’s a fuck, so ultimately - eh. But I am not going to celebrate cutting someone off at the knee and then laughing at their inability to stand.

                    Mind you, I am for sure not pro-Trump in any universe. I am just a humanist, and I think there’s something really twisted about stuff like that as a whole. Like, when people want power only to subjugate their oppressors. Or like - how a ton of portrayals of white guys in the media started to look like absolutely idiots or be fetishized or harassable. Cause fuck off with all harassment, but for sure you can’t put the shoe on the other foot and then start doing the same FUCKING thing that you hated previously. That’s just dumb.

                    But eh, here’s a super rant. Either way it sounds like you’ve got a solid and level head on your shoulders and I think that will take you further. At least emotionally, in this world. Idk about anything else. So kudos =)~

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          I mean everyone’s gotta find the way they can meditate. Or at least, by themselves. Cause you sit me in a temple and I can be as quite as a church mouse outside of discussion periods. But at home it’s a bit harder. I use a couple of techniques and switch them up depending on what I need. But I have a song that I will always meditate to that gets me in the chill spot. And yeah it’s got some heavy D&B but hell if it doesn’t zen me out like a baby being swaddled. So idk?

          Also on calm they have an awesome meditation where you find a space in your body that is restless and you sit with it, then you take your minds eye and push it out as far as you can think of - a mountain top, a plane in the sky - whatever and then you yoyo it back and forth like that. I got a year free, and absolutely loved this meditation.