At least in the United States, smoking is something fewer and fewer people take up these days. This obviously wasn’t the case back in the 50’s through the 80’s, where cigarettes were commonly smoked out in public.

So whenever I see a period movie or show, filmed in the 2020’s but taking place in the 60’s, there’s frequent scenes where characters are smoking cigarettes in a bar or stress-smoking to the filter after a stressful conversation. And I think to myself, “are these actors all smokers? In this day and age? Or is that an unlit prop ciggy with VFX smoke done in post?”

Are fake cigarettes common in film production now, or are these still typically the real deal?

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      40
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      So you still have to take smoke into your lungs, but it’s not forcing a tobacco craving to start.

      • AntY@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        50
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        You can just keep the smoke in your mouth, no need to inhale it if it’s just for show.

        • EeeDawg101@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          16
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          It looks kind of dumb though if I’m being honest. You can easily tell if someone didn’t inhale and instead just kept it in their mouth. Doesn’t look as complete. For acting, I’d consider this an issue.

          • Atiran@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            36
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Almost everything looks dumb on tv if you know what to look for. Almost everything related to guns, computers, or driving looks ridiculous and fake. It doesn’t stop them from doing it, nor does it stop people from enjoying the entertainment.

            • iNeedScissors67@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              20
              ·
              1 year ago

              I still remember watching the OC back in high school and seeing them play a Playstation game with an Xbox controller. I think about it sometimes.

            • CosmicApe@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              ·
              1 year ago

              After reading about how Tarantino actually strangled Kruger for Inglorious Basterds, I can’t help but notice how fake it looks in other films.

            • jscummy@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              No idea what you’re talking about, I just picked up a new Charger with the F&F package (25 speed manual, factory installed 5000 shot of nitrous) and it seems perfectly realistic

          • operator@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            Agree. I can always tell if an actor is inhaling or puffing. And (I wish everyone the best in health) this looks just weird.

      • Calvin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I don’t even think it’s going into the lungs especially with non smokers. If you try to inhale smoke as a non smoker you’ll most likely cough your lungs out. I assume they suck the smoke into their cheeks and blow it out from there.

    • acunasdaddy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      1 year ago

      Cool to know. But that website you liked to is cancer. I’ve never seen so many obnoxious ads covering up the text lol

      • NABDad@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        40
        ·
        1 year ago

        Well, if the fake cigarettes aren’t going to give you cancer, the website needs to pick up the slack!

  • Lem Jukes@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    110
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Theatre Worker Here:

    Most prop masters I’ve worked with use either this brand or something very similar. From that page the ingredients listed are: Marshmallow Leaves, Red Clover Flowers, Rose Petals, Fruit Juices, Honey. You can also buy packs that are designed to look like real brands(yellow american spirits, the famous “Marlboro Red”, and white for marb lights.)

    Fake cigarettes have been pretty common props for a while now. Obviously there used to be a lot more actual tobacco use on sets but nowadays, especially with a lot of municipalities outlawing tobacco smoking indoors in public spaces, its almost always all fake/herbal. There are also nicotine free vaporizers that are styled to look like real cigarettes.

    • クーイフ@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      1 year ago

      I remember reading Cillian Murphy went through some silly number of those herbal cigs filming the first season of Peaky Blinders alone.

      • DrCatface@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        they taste like a bouquet of flowers its like smoking your mums garden. the smoke is so light that you think its not lit but then u breathe out smoke. looks real, tastes like rolled up roses. bought 2 packs when I was trying to quit, had 2 and never touched them again

  • Nightmaru@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    74
    ·
    1 year ago

    They’re herb cigarettes. Think about how long scenes take to shoot, it could be days for a single scene. They’d be smoking multiple packs in a day of nonstop smoking. Even actual smokers wouldn’t enjoy it.

    • eltimablo@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I dunno, if I got paid to smoke 3 packs a day I think I’d be pretty happy. I also hate my lungs more than most people though.

  • visnudeva@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I have a question of the same kind, how do they do when they clearly sniff coke ? What kind of white powder isn’t harmful to the nose is used in cinema ?

  • bleistift2@feddit.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Just in case someone important reads this:

    I really wish movie makers would drop the ‘smoking is {cool,badass,…whatever} trope.’ I’m happy whenever I find that a whole cast never touches a cigarett on camera (think, How I Met Your Mother or The Big Bang Theory)

    • YMS@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 year ago

      How I Met Your Mother literally had an episode only about smoking, revealing that everybody in the main group has smoked at one point, and they all do in that episode.

      Besides that, isn’t the “smoking is cool” phase in movies a thing of the past already? Most movies don’t show anyone smoking, and if, I would say it’s most often not the hero, but often some shady guys.

      • bleistift2@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I know that episode. And the message, in red bold face across the screen for the entire episode is “Don’t smoke.” That’s different from the on-screen smoking I’m talking about.

        Characters can be shady without smoking. Just because they’re not the hero, the appeal of ‘being shady’ and the incentive to look to them as a role model doesn’t vanish.

    • ReCursing@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      In my experience it usually means “this is the bad guy” nowadays, rather than “this guy is cool”

      • bleistift2@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Characters can be ‘the bad guy’ without smoking. Associating ‘being the bad guy’ with smoking is even worse, IMHO than a smoking hero.

  • HamSwagwich@showeq.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    They don’t inhale. You can usually tell the real smokers from the ones who don’t smoke if you watch the exhale.

    If it all comes out in one puff, they aren’t smoking, just holding it in their mouth.

    If it comes out in a long stream or through thier nose, then they are likely a real smoker.